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MR. SPEAKER: The honourable Member must not discuss the clauses of the Bill on this Motion.

fancy that if a proposal of this kind. relating to a measure of this kind had been proposed by a Liberal Government, honourable Members opposite would have met the proposal with very strong opposition. The right honourable Gentleman

has referred to the small number of honourable Members who voted against the Second Reading. I cannot understand why my honourable Friend went to a Division at all against the Second Reading, seeing that the Bill does away with the severe penalties which exist at the present time, and very much modifies the present procedure, and all that is necessary now is to reform Clause 2.

Allhusen, Augustus H. E.
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.
Ashmead-Bartlett, Sir Ellis
Asquith, Rt. Hon. H. H.
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John
Bailey, James (Walworth)
Balcarres, Lord

Balfour, Rt. Hr. G. W. (Leeds)
Balfour, Rt. Hn. J. B. (Clackm.)
Banbury, Frederick George
Barry, Rt. Hn. A. H. Smith-
Bartley, George C. T.

Barton, Dunbar Plunket
Beach, Rt. Hn. Sir M.H. (Brist'l)
Beckett, Ernest William
Begg, Ferdinand Faithfull
Blundell, Colonel Henry
Bond, Edward

Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-
Brassey, Albert

Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John
Brookfield, A. Montagu
Butcher, John George
Carlile, William Walter
Cecil, Lord Hugh
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. (Birm.)
Chamberlain, J. A. (Worc'r)
Chaplin, Rt. Hon. Henry
Charrington, Spencer
Chelsea, Viscount

Cochrane, Hon. T. H. A. E.
Coghill, Douglas Harry
Cohen, Benjamin Louis
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse
Colomb, Sir John Charles R.
Colston. Chas. E. H. Athole
Cook, Fred. Lucas (Lambeth)
Corbett, A. C. (Glasgow)
Cranborne, Viscount
Crean, Eugene

Curzon, Viscount (Bucks)
Dalbiac, Colonel Philip Hugh
Dalrymple, Sir Charles
Denny, Colonel

Digby. J. K. D. Wingfield-
Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph

DR. CLARK: I simply want to point out that for the second time to-night an important Bill is proposed to be sert to one of the Grand Committees, and I warn honourable Gentlemen opposite that if they persist in the policy of referring first-rate, or even second-rate, Measures to the Grand Committees, there is danger that the same measure will be meted out to them when they are opposing Bills proposed by Gentlemen now sitting on this side of the House.

The House divided:-Ayes 301; Noes 50. (Division List No. 92.)

AYES.

Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-
Duncombe, Hon. Hubert V.
Dunn, Sir William

Dyke, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Hart
Farquharson, Dr. Robert
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn E.
Fergusson, Rt. Hn. SirJ. (Manc. )
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne
Firbank, Joseph Thomas
Fisher, William Hayes
Fison, Frederick William
FitzGerald, Sir R. Penrose-
Fitzmaurice, Lord Edmond
Fletcher, Sir Henry
Flower, Ernest
Flynn, James Christopher
Folkestone, Viscount
Forwood, Rt. Hon. Sir A. B.
Foster, Sir W. (Derby Co.)
Garfit, William

Gibbs, Hon. V. (St. Albans)
Goldsworthy, Major-General
Gordon, Hon. John Edward
Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.
Goschen, George J. (Sussex)
Goulding, Edward Alfred
Graham, Henry Robert
Gray, Ernest (West Ham)
Green, W. D. (Wednesbury)
Greene, H. D. (Shrewsbury)
Haldane, Richard Burdon
Hamilton, Rt. Hon. Lord G.
Hanbury, Rt. Hon. R. W.
Hardy, Laurence
Hayden, John Patrick
Hayne, Rt. Hon. C. Seale-
Helder, Augustus

Hill, Rt. Hn. Lord A. (Down)
Hoare. Samuel (Norwich)
Howell, William Tudor
Howorth, Sir Henry Hoyle
Hubbard, Hon. Evelyn
Hutton, John (Yorks., N.R.)
Jeffreys, Arthur Frederick
Johnston, William (Belfast)
Jordan, Jeremiah

Kennaway, Rt. Hn. Sir J. H.
Kenyon, James

Kinloch, Sir John G. Smyth
Knowles, Lees
Lafone, Alfred

Lawrence, Sir E. (Cornwall)
Lawrence, W. F. (Liverpool)
Leigh-Bennett, Hy. Currie
Llewelyn. SirDillwyn-(Sw'ns'a)
Lockwood, Lt. Col. A. R.
Long, Rt. Hon. W. (Liverp❜l)
Lopes, Henry Yarde Buller
Lowe, Francis William
Lowles, John

Loyd, Archie Kirkman
Lucas-Shadwell, William
Macaleese, Daniel
Macartney, W. G. Ellison
Macdona, John Cumming
Maclure, Sir John William
MacNeill, John G. Swift
McArthur, Chas. (Liverpool)
McCalmont, H. L. B. (Cambs.)
McEwan, William
McIver, Sir Lewis
McKillop, James

Manners, Lord Edward W. J.
Martin, Richard Biddulph
Mellor. Colonel (Lancashire)
Melville, Beresford Valentine
Mildmay, Francis Bingham
Molloy, Bernard Charles
Monk, Charles James
More, Robert Jasper

Morgan, Hn. F. (Monm'thsh.)
Morgan, J. L. (Carmarthen)
Morrell, George Herbert
Morton, A. H. A. (Deptford)
Mount, William George
Murray, Rt. Hn. A. G. (Bute)
Murray, Col. W. (Bath)
Nicholson, William Graham
Nicol, Donald Ninian

O'Brien, P. J. (Tipperary)
O'Connor. T. P. (Liverpool)
O'Neill, Hon. Robert T.

Penn, John
Phillpotts, Captain Arthur
Pierpoint, Robert
Platt-Higgins, Frederick
Pollock, Harry Frederick
Powell, Sir Francis Sharp
Priestley, Sir W. O. (Edin.)
Pryce-Jones, Edward
Purvis, Robert

Rentoul, James Alexander
Ridley, Rt. Hon. Sir M. W.
Robertson, Herb. (Hackney)
Roche, Hon. J. (E. Kerry)
Round, James

Russell, T. W. (Tyrone)
Scoble, Sir Andrew Richard
Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
Seely, Charles Hilton
Seton-Karr, Henry
Sharpe, William Edward T.
Shaw-Stewart, M. H. (Renf.)
Sidebotham, J. W. (Cheshire)

Sidebottom, Wm. (Derbysh.) | Vincent, Col. Sir C. E. H.

Simeon, Sir Barrington
Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Smith, A. H. (Christchurch)
Smith, J. Parker (Lanarksh.)
Smith, Samuel (Flint)
Smith, Hn. W. F. D. (Strand)
Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Stanley, E. J. (Somerset)
Stewart, Sir Mark J. M'T.
Strauss, Arthur

Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier
Sullivan, Donal (Westmeath)
Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Thorburn, Walter
Thornton, Percy M.
Tollemache, Henry James
Tomlinson, W. E. Murray
Tritton, Charles Ernest
Tully, Jasper
Ure, Alexander

Warkworth, Lord

Warr, Augustus Frederick
Webster, R. G. (St. Pancras)
Webster, Sir R. E. (I. of W.)
Welby, Lieut.-Col. A. C. E.
Wentworth, Bruce C. Vernon-
Whitmore, Charles Algernon
Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Willox, Sir John Archibald
Wilson, J. W. (Worc., N.)
Wilson-Todd, W. H. (Yorks.)
Wodehouse, E. R. (Bath)
Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm
Woodall, William
Wortley, Rt. Hn. C. B. Stuart-
Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Wyvill, Marmaduke D'Arcy
Young, Com. (Berks, E.)
TELLERS FOR THE AYES-
Sir William Walrond and
Mr. Anstruther.

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Bill committed.

TELEPHONES.

Doughty, George
Duckworth, James
Evans, S. T. (Glamorgan)
Ffrench, Peter

Galloway, William Johnson
Gibney, James

Greville, Captain
Hazell, Walter
Healy, Maurice (Cork)
Knox, Edmund F. Vesey
Lambert, George

Lawson, Sir W. (Cumberland)
M'Ghee, Richard

McLaren, Charles Benjamin
Mendl, Sigismund Ferdinand
Murnaghan, George

Pease, J. A. (Northumb.)
Pickersgill, Edward Hare

Motion made, and Question proposed

"That a Select Committee be appointed to inquire and report whether the telephone service is or is not calculated to become of such general benefit as to justify its being undertaken by municipal and other local authorities, regard being had to local finance; and, if so, whether such local authorities should have power to undertake such service in the districts of other local authorities outside the area of their own jurisdiction, but comprised wholly or partially in the same telephone area, and what powers, duties, and obligations ought to be conferred or imposed upon

Pinkerton, John

Provand, Andrew Dryburgh
Rickett, J. Compton

Royds, Clement Molyneux

Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees)

Stanhope, Hon. Philip J.
Steadman, William Charles
Strachey, Edward

Sullivan, T. D. (Donegal, W.)
Tanner, Charles Kearns
Wedderburn, Sir William
Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Wilson, H. J. (Yorks., W.R.)
Wilson, John (Govan)

TELLERS FOR THE NOES-
Mr. Labouchere and Mr.
Ascroft.

such local authorities; that the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on the Telephone Service in the Session of 1895, and the Report of the Commissioner and the Evidence taken before him in the inquiry recently held at Glasgow, be referred to the Committee for consideration in so far as they relate to the subject of the present inquiry; that the Committee do consist of Seventeen Members; that Mr. Bartley, Mr. Griffith-Boscawen, Sir Harry Bullard, Mr. Cawley, Mr. Cohen, Mr. Colville, Mr. Firbank, Mr. Fry, Mr. Hanbury, Sir Reginald Hanson, Sir Henry Howorth, Sir James Joicey, Mr. Nicol, Mr. John Redmond. Mr. James Stuart, Mr. Tully, and Sir James Woodhouse, be members of the Committee; that the Committee have power to send for persons, papers, and records; that Five be the quorum." |—(Sir William Walrond.)

House adjourned at 12.10.

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Read third time; Passed, and sent to with Amendments: Amendments conCommons.

sidered, and agreed to.

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COLONIES (ANNUAL).

No. 228. Bermuda (Report for 1897).

OFFICERS IN THE JAMESON RAID. EARL CARRINGTON : I have a Question on the Paper, but I notice in the newspaper this morning that Lord Hugh Cecil asked a question last night in IRISH LAND COMMISSION (JUDICIAL the House of Commons as to whether RENTS). it would be permissible to raise Return for the mnoth of December, the question of the reinstatement 1897. of Jameson's officers in the Army Vote in that House. The answer was that no promise could be given before Whitsuntide, but there was no refusal as I understand it. Therefore, under these circumstances, in the interests of these officers, in whom there is a widespread—and I do not think I am saying too much when I say—a universal sympathy, I shall postpone the Question which stands in my name to some future and more convenient occasion.

RAILWAYS (CONTINUOUS BRAKES). Return, by the railway companies of the United Kingdom, for the six months ending the 31st December, 1897.

SIGHT TESTS.

Report on the sight tests used in the Mercantile Marine for the year 1897, in continuation of Parliamentary Paper [C.-8470.].

COMMERCIAL (1898), No. 5.

THE DUKE OF FIFE: My Lords, I rise to join in the appeal which has been made by my noble Friend below me

EARL CARRINGTON: I beg the noble Duke's pardon; but the appeal has not yet been made. I merely explained that I proposed to postpone it to a more convenient occasion. re

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Presented (by command), and ordered to lie on the Table.

THE DUKE OF FIFE: I am obliged to the noble Earl. I did not at first catch what he said.

House adjourned at 4.35.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Tuesday, 10th May 1898.

LONDON COUNTY COUNCIL (NORTHERN
TRAMWAYS).

Order [3rd March] that the Petition for the London County Council (Northern Tramways) Bill be referred to the Select Committee on Standing Orders read, and discharged.

Ordered, That the Petition for the Bill be withdrawn. (Dr. Farquharson.)

MR. SPEAKER took the Chair at SOUTHWARK AND VAUXHALL WATER Three of the clock.

BILL.

Reported; Report to lie upon the Table, and to be printed.

PRIVATE BILL BUSINESS.

BUCKIE (CLUNY) HARBOUR BILL. [H.L.] Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time.

EDINBURGH MERCHANT COMPANY

EAST HAM IMPROVEMENT BILL. Reported from the Select Committee on Police and Sanitary Regulations Bills; Report to lie upon the Table, and to be printed.

STANDING ORDERS. Resolutions reported from the Committee

"1. That, in the case of the London County Council (General Powers) Bill, Petition for additional Provision, the Standing Orders ought to be dispensed with:-That the parties be permitted to introduce their additional As amended, considered; To be read Provision if the Committee on the Bill think the third time.

BILL. [H.L.]

NOTTINGHAM CORPORATION BILL. As amended, considered; To be read the third time.

fit."

"2. That, in the case of the Cromer Gas Bill, Petition for additional Provision, the Standing Orders ought to be dispensed with:That the parties be permitted to introduce their additional Provision if the Committee on the Bill think fit."

Resolutions agreed to.

BOMBAY, BARODA, AND CENTRAL INDIA RAILWAY COMPANY BILL. (H.L.] Read a second time, and committed.

NORTH PEMBROKESHIRE AND
FISHGUARD RAILWAY BILL.

NEW BILLS.

PARISH COUNCILLORS (TENURE OF
OFFICE).

Bill "to enable parish councillors to hold office for three years."

Ordered to be brought in by Mr. Lambert, Mr. Seale-Hayne, Mr. Hobhouse, Mr. Luttrell, and Mr. Jeffreys; presented, and read the first time; to be read a Order for Second Reading read, and second time upon Thursday, 9th June, discharged; Bill withdrawn. and to be printed. [Bill 202.]

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