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MR. HALDANE: Forty-seven guns have been issued. The limbers are about to be issued. Drill ammunition can be obtained on demand from the local Ordnance Officer. The handbook is in proof stage, and issue will be made as soon as possible.

MR. LEE: Can Members of the House

MR. HALDANE: Yes, provision has been made for that.

Volunteer Establishment.

MR. H. H. MARKS (Kent, Thanet): I beg to ask the Secretary of State for War whether he can state how many members of the Volunteer Force were

be supplied with copies of the handbook? serving on the 31st March last, and how many of them have since enlisted in the Territorial Army.

MR. HALDANE: No doubt that can be done.

Territorial Field Artillery Adjutants. MR. ASHLEY: On behalf of the hon. Member for the Rye Division of Sussex, I beg to ask the Secretary of State for War whether the work and the pay of the adjutants of the Territorial field artillery will be greater or less than that of adjutants of the late Volunteer artillery.

MR. HALDANE: The work of the adjutants will not be less than before. The pay will be less for new appointments, as being Field and not Garrison Artillery they will not receive the armament pay which was granted for the latter appointments. The rights of existing adjutants of Volunteer Royal Garrison Artillery will be preserved for the period of their original appointment.

Territorial Battalion Colours.

MR. ASHLEY: On behalf of the hon. Member for the Rye Division of Sussex, I beg to ask the Secretary of State for War whether battalions of the Territorial Force will carry colours.

MR. HALDANE: I hope this question will shortly be decided.

Territorial Battalion Bands.

MR. ASHLEY: I beg to ask the Secretary of State for War whether bands for the Territorial battalions will be part of their establishment as in the case of the late Volunteer force.

MR. HALDANE: An Infantry battalion of the Territorial Force includes sixteen bandsmen, who act as stretcher bearers in the field, and also sixteen drummers and buglers.

MR. ASHLEY: Are we to understand that the Territorial Infantry battalions

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who have since enlisted in the Territorial The Returns of the figures of those Army are not yet sufficiently complete to enable me to publish them, but I hope they will be available very shortly.

Separation Allowances for Territorial Camps.

MR. GRETTON (Rutland): I beg to ask the Secretary of State for War, if, for the purpose of promoting recruiting for the Territorial Forces, he will reconsider the advantages of paying a separation allowance to married privates in these forces during the annual encampment or in case of embodiment, as is already done in the case of non-commissioned officers.

MR. HALDANE: On embodiment all married privates will receive separation allowance. As regards camp, the grant to non-commissioned officers was made specially in order to give them special encouragement, and it is not proposed to extend this concession to the privates -a concession which would involve the State in an expenditure of £50,000 a year at the very least.

MR. GRETTON: Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that difficulties in recruiting have arisen owing to the small pay for the married men?

The arrange

MR. HALDANE: ments are the same as for the Regular

public bodies the difficulty can be over

come.

Law of Imprisonment in Natal. MR. BELLOC (Salford, S.): I beg to ask the Under Secretary of State for the Colonies whether the law and practice of Natal permit imprisonment upon a general warrant containing no specific charge; and, if so, what other Colonies, if any, have effected this fundamental change in English law.

THE UNDER-SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE COLONIES (Colonel SEELY, Liverpool, Abercromby): The law and practice of Natal does not, as far as I am aware, permit of imprisonment on general

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COLONEL SEELY: No definite proposal of the kind indicated by my hon. friend has at present come before the Secretary of State.

National Sleeping Sickness Bureau.

*MR. REES: I beg to ask the UnderSecretary of State for the Colonies whether the Government has decided to establish a national sleeping sickness bureau, with headquarters in London; whether a Convention between Great Britain and Germany for the prevention of the spread of this malady is contemHouse any information on this subject. plated; and whether he can give the

COLONEL SEELY: The Answer to the first two portions of my hon. friend's Question is in the affirmative. The Secretary of State hopes to be in a position to publish detailed information regarding the bureau shortly.

Expropriation of Lagos Natives.

MR. CATHCART WASON (Orkney and Shetland): I beg to ask the UnderSecretary of State for the Colonies if he tion of natives at Lagos is viewed by the is aware that the compulsory exproprianative population with alarm; and if, in order to allay any feeling of injustice that may exist, instructions will be given. that land elsewhere will be granted to the expropriated natives.

COLONEL SEELY: I am in a position. to inform my hon. friend that the feelings of the natives on this question have been exaggerated. The number affected is about 350, and liberal compensation for expropriation is being awarded to them. It is undoubtedly the policy of the Governor to meet the point raised by the hon. Member. There are large unoccupied areas in the neighbourhood of the town. Part of the land is already marked out into building sites and roads, and further land will be similarly marked out as soon as there is evidence of pressure of population.

Abeokuta Treaty.

MR. REES: I beg to ask the UnderSecretary of State for the Colonies whether the Government has information MR. CATHCART WASON: I beg to to the effect that the Government of ask the Under-Secretary of State for the Canada proposes to provide for the control Colonies if his attention has been called of immigration under an amended regula- | tion by reciprocal action between the country of citizenship and the country of destination.

to the treaty of friendship and commerce made at Abeokuta between His Majesty's Government and the Alake on the 18th January, 1893, and also to the letters of

the 29th June and 29th July, 1903, between the Alake and Sir W. M'Gregor on the question of tolls; and whether, in view of the fact that the Alake and his people consider the maintenance of the said tolls as essential to their independence, the Government will view with displeasure any attempts to abolish them.

COLONEL SEELY: My attention has been called to the treaty and letters referred to. His Majesty's Government would be glad, in the interests of trade, to see the tolls abolished, but they could not be abolished except by the substitu tion of some other arrangement which would provide the funds required for the government of the town and district, and would be acceptable to the native chiefs.

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White Labour in the Transvaal Mines. MR. FELL: I beg to ask Under-Secretary of State for the Colon

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MR. FELL: Were not the unemployed ies if he can give any particulars who were engaged in this attempt of the recent experiment to introduce miners? white labour into the Transvaal mines; and if he has any official information showing that of forty-five men engaged not one would continue work on the second day.

COLONEL SEELY: The Secretary of State has learnt from Lord Selborne,

writing under date the 13th of April, that the result of the experiment has not been altogether satisfactory. A very large proportion of the men refused to undertake the work offered to them on the mines, and made it a grievance that they should be called upon to do work of the kind ordinarily done by Kaffirs, at the rate of pay ordinarily given to Kaffirs. The statement issued on 6th

April by the Rand Unemployment Committee, who made the arrangements, shows that of the 395 men whom seventeen mines had agreed to take on 1st April, only 121 were still at work at the date of the last returns from the mines. The committee are not entirely discouraged by the first results of the employment of unskilled labour on the mines, yet they are disappointed that so large a proportion of the men sent to the mines should have either failed to appear or left the properties without giving the work a trial.

MR. FELL: Will Papers be laid, and will they show the rate of pay to the

COLONEL SEELY: Not necessarily; a great many were not, for complaint was made that they could not earn as much by piece-work because they had no experience in the work.

hon. Gentleman give to the House the exact figures relating to the wages of the miners?

SIR GILBERT PARKER: Will the

COLONEL SEELY said that, if the hon. Gentleman would put down a Question, he would see whether he could do so.

Cakijana.

MR. G. GREENWOOD (Peterborough): I beg to ask the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether an application was made to the Supreme Court of Natal on behalf of the Zulu chief, Cakijana, for a habeas corpus to remove him from the jurisdiction of martial law to the jurisdiction of the Courts of Natal, where he surrendered; and what was the result of the application.

State is aware that such an application COLONEL SEELY: The Secretary of was made, and it would appear from Press telegrams to have been successful. The Governor has been requested to telegraph a summary of the decision of

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Carmarthen Prison.

prisoners to Swansea who are committed for trial from parts of Cardiganshire and Carmarthenshire, and also the additional cost to the ratepayers.

MR. GLADSTONE: I have received two communications to the effect indicated. The use of Carmarthen prison for the detention of female prisoners is found to be inconvenient and costly, and these objections will be obviated by the new arrangement which will save money to the taxpayers and throw no burden upon local rates, all expenses of the conveyance of prisoners being charged to Imperial funds. If the new arrangement is found to cause any substantial hardship to prisoners it can be reconsidered, but in view of the very small number of female prisoners received at Carmarthen from Cardiganshire and Carmarthen, I do not think this will be the case.

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MR. GLADSTONE: I have nominated two assistants to inspectorships in connection with the scheme for the augmentation of the staff. appointed under the special powers in They have been

Clause 7 of the Order in Council of 4th June, 1870, after having passed a qualifying examination in the subjects of factory law and sanitary science; and will not be required to sit for the ordinary examination.

MR. RAMSAY MACDONALD: Were

MR. LLOYD MORGAN (Carmarthenshire, W.): I beg to ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has received any communications from justices at quarter sessions with regard to a proposed order to dispense with female quarters at His these two assistants men who passed Majesty's prison, Carmarthen; whether the examination some time ago? Is it is proposed to send in future all female it the fact that for the purpose of the prisoners from the three western counties increase of the staff no further nominations of South Wales to Swansea instead of are to be given? keeping them at Carmarthen prison; and whether, before making the order, he will consider the hardship which the proposed change would entail of sending

MR. GLADSTONE: They are the two who competed some time ago, and there are no further nominations.

Factory Inspectors' Qualifications. MR. RAMSAY MACDONALD: I beg to ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will inform the House how many men are now performing the duties of factory inspectors without having passed examinations in factory law and sanitation, and how many assistant factory inspectors have not qualified in these subjects.

MR. GLADSTONE: Eleven junior inspectors, appointed under the new scheme of examination, have not yet passed the deferred examination in factory law and sanitary science. As I have explained on previous occasions, inspectors are required to pass this examination at or before the end of their period of two years probation. Inspectors' assistants are not required to qualify in these subjects, but in their entrance examination they are required to show an elementary knowledge of the principal provisions of the law relating to workshops.

Fatal Accidents in Factories and
Workshops.

MR. RAMSAY MACDONALD: I beg to ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department, whether his attention has been called to the number of fatal accidents in factories and workshops reported during March last, which show an increase of 20 per cent. on the number reported in March 1907; whether this increase has been going on steadily for some years; and whether he proposes to take any steps to find the causes of the increase with a view to diminishing it.

MR. GLADSTONE: I am aware of the figures referred to in the Question, which are prepared in my Department, but I do not think that too much importance should be attached to monthly fluctuations. I may point out to the hon. Member that the dock accidents for the same months show a very much larger percentage of decrease. So far as regards fatal accidents in factories and workshops. the hon. Member is, I think, under some misapprehension. The number of these accidents has not, as he suggests, been steadily increasing for some years on the contrary from 1900 to 1904 there was, with the exception of one year, a steady decline, and it was only the figures of last

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MR. GLADSTONE: I have carefully considered these cases. I must point out that deliberate conspiracy to do damage, such as this was, differs widely ing by a tramp in order to secure a few from the ordinany case of window breaknights lodging in prison. The case of Thompson is different from the others, but he was not convicted of conspiracy, and was sentenced to twelve months only in order that he might have the benefits of the special Borstal treatment. I regret that I see no reason for interference in any of the cases.

MR. CLYNES: Did the right hon. Gentleman in considering these cases take into account the fact that the witness on whose evidence the accused were mainly convicted, had himself been in prison twenty-four times?

MR. GLADSTONE: Yes, I took that into careful consideration, and I am satisfied that the Judge and jury also took it into consideration.

MR. LUPTON (Lincolnshire, Sleaford): Is it the fact that these men were sentenced to twelve months imprisonment for breaking one window?

MR. GLADSTONE: They were sentenced for conspiracy.

MR. LUPTON: Did they conspire to break one window ?

MR. GLADSTONE: They broke a

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