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The CHAIRMAN. Let this affidavit be made exhibit No. 196A and the photo that he identified-do you have that?
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. Yes, I have two photos.
The CHAIRMAN. Two photos he identified-make one of them 196B and the other 196C.
(Documents referred to were marked "Exhibits Nos. 196A, 196B, and 196C” for reference and may be found in the files of the subcommittee.)
The CHAIRMAN. Can you compare those photographs there with the pictures that are on this chart up here?
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. Yes; I can.
The CHAIRMAN. Would you say they are the same people? Tell us if they are the same people as listed on the chart and those names.
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. Yes, they are, Senator.
The CHAIRMAN. Let me ask you, were these cars that he described the kind of cars you had in your group?
Mr. LaPaglix. I remember the description of the gas pump being fixed, and I remember my coil wire.
The CHAIRMAN. He did fix your gas pump!
The CHAIRMAN. So you were there?
Senator MUNDT. I think he said also there was a water pump problem with the Pontiac.
Mr. LAPAGLIA. I remember coming back to the car and the water pump still not being fixed. I remember the decision on trying to make it, anyway, and I remember the fact that one of the cars did not make it.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you have anything further?
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. After leaving the gas station, we traveled up the road to Sams Landing, a small area there, where a food market known as Sam's Food Market is established.
I now submit a signed, notarized affidavit from Joseph Bravata, Sr., the owner and operator of Sam's Food Market.
The CHAIRMAN. Very well, it may be made exhibit No. 197, and you
may read it.
(Document referred to was marked "Exhibit No. 197" for reference and may be found in the files of the subcommittee.)
Mr. FIALKEWICZ (reading):
I, Joe Bravata, state that I am aware of my full rights and I freely make the following affidavit.
During the middle of September of 1966, a group of negro men came to my Food Market, Sams Food Market at Sam's Landing, Shelbyville, Michigan. I remember this for it is rare to have negro men in this area, at this time of the year which was the end of summer resort season.
These men purchased the choicest meats, fanciest produce and groceries and the top brand whiskies and beers. To my knowledge they had spent in excess of $100.00. I also remember that these men were free spending and all had large "bundles” of cash in their pockets. The money was in large denominations, $10.00-$20.00 and $50.00.
I don't recall them purchasing any of the guns that I had displayed. The guns I had here are and were used guns that I purchased from customers for resale. I can't account at this time as to what make guns or size of caliber that were on display.
I viewed a number of pictures of a group of young negro men. I cannot identify any of the men from this group. These men were definitely in my store on two occasions and possibly one more time.
The reason I know that these men had large denominations bills on there person was that at the time to pay for the groceries, etc.,—they divided and each paid their share. They all pulled their money from their pockets which I saw to be large amounts and large denominations,
/s/ Joseph J. Bravata, Sr., 6–24–68. Witness: Walter S. Fialkewicz. Witness: K. R. Granata.
Richard D. Barnum, Notary Public, Barry County, Michigan. My Commission Expires Aug. 23, 1970.
Sworn before me, a Notary Public in and for the County of Barry on June 24, 1968.
/s/ Richard D. Barnum. My commission expires Aug. 23, 1970. The CHAIRMAN. Very well. Do you have any more! Mr. FIALKEWICZ. Yes, I have one more.
Senator MUNDT. Let me ask—Mr. LaPaglia, was there any whisky drinking in this cabin while you were there?
Mr. LAPAGLIA. I did not see any whisky drinking at all.
Mr. LAPAGLIA. It seems to me there were a couple of guys drinking beer while we were there.
Senator MUNDT. You didn't see any whisky at all?
Senator MUNDT. Is it true that the Negroes with you went out and bought some food, or did you buy the food yourself?
Mr. LAPAGLIA. They went out and bought food. I bought food. There was food that they got from the local kitchen.
Senator MUNDT. Was the idea that they would split up the cost among themselves, or was this all financed by the church?
Mr. LAPAGLIA. The trip was financed by the church. Food was being financed by the church.
Senator MUNDT. The Negroes went out to buy it; you went out to buy it; different people bought it? Where did they get their money?
Mr. LAPAGLIA. The only food-I am not really sure of this, but the only food that was bought was with the church's money, as I remember—was the food bought by myself. These guys did say that they were going to the store. They may have bought some snacks kind of things while they were there. I don't remember sending anybody out to the store to buy food.
Senator MUNDT. It would sound like maybe snacks. He said choicest meats. It could be sandwich meats, fancy produce. I take it provided the staples, the ordinary meal. They might have gone out and bought a little luxury food and divided it up like this man says.
Mr. LAPAGLIA. Yes. As I remember, one of the Rangers went with me on a food-buying trip. I just don't recall who it was.
Senator MUNDT. Did you yourself buy any food at Sam's Market?
Mr. LAPAGLIA. If Sam's Market is the market that you get to by turning at the gas station, a mile and a half down the road, yes.
Senator MUNDT. There is a little difference which way you were traveling, whether you turn right or left.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you have another?
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. I have another affidavit from Florence Blackman, who is a clerk in Sam's Food Market.
The CHAIRMAN. Very well. It may be made exhibit No. 198.
(Document referred to was marked "Exhibit No. 198” for reference, and may be found in the files of the subcommitttee.)
Mr. FIALKEWICZ (reading):
I, Florence Blackman, do state that I am aware of my full rights and freely make this following affidavit.
I am a clerk at the Sam's Food Market, Sam's Landing, Shelbyville, Michigan.
During the middle of September 1966, I and Mr. Bravata the owner of the store and possibly several other part time clerks were in the store. At this time a group of young Negro men came into the store to purchase some food stuff. These men said that they were staying over at Circle Pine Camp located over in the Stewart Lake area. They said they were from Chicago, Illinois. These men were very jolly and friendly. They purchased a very large order of the best meats and groceries. They all paid their share and at this time I saw that they all had large amounts of paper money on them and it was in large denominations.
I'm not positive but I think they looked at the guns that were on display in the store. I cannot say if they purchased any guns or ammunition at this time. These men had come to the store on several occasions and each time they were very big purchasers in the store of expensive food goods, and whiskies. I have viewed a number of police photos of Negro men and I cannot identify any of the subjects. The only person that looks familiar to me on the photos is the picture of Fletcher Pugh. The reason I recall this man is because of his slender face and goatee.
I also recall even that these men were jolly and friendly—and very free with their cash, they would always ask or seek permission from one of the other men before they would make a purchase. It was as if this man was their leader. I cannot recall a true description of this man other than he was a young tall Negro man in his early twenties.
(S) FIORENCE BLACKMAN. June 14, 1968. Witness: Walter S. Fialkewicz. Witness: K. R. Granata.
JOSEPH J. BRAVATA, Sr.,
Notary Public, Barry County, Mich. My commission expires October 11, 1970.
(S) JOSEPH J. BRAVATA, Sr. June 24, 1968. The CHAIRMAN. Do you have any others!
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. No; I have no other notarized affidavits. But after that I went to Camp Pine.
The CHAIRMAN. You did what?
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. I went to the Circle Pine Camp-excuse me and received their sign-in sheet for that particular time.
The CHAIRMAN. The registration ?
The CHAIRMAN. I present you here a notebook apparently and ask you to examine it and state what it is.
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. This is the registration or sign-in book that I received from a William A. Knox, the executive director of the Circle Pine Camp
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the original ?
The CHAIRMAN. What do you find there related to this visit there of the people involved in this inquiry?
Mfr. FIALKEWICZ. On the second page of this registration it shows August 21, the hour 3 p.m., and then they have marked breakfast, the names of a group that signed in. Each signed in individually. The leadoff signature is Charles LaPaglia. He has signed in as a visitor. He shows he is from Chicago, phone number DO 3-0505.
The CHAIRMAN. Chicago—what is that?
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. We have checked this and this is the number of the First Presbyterian Church as listed in 1967.
The CHAIRMAN. The telephone number?
The CHAIRMAN. That was the telephone number of the First Presbyterian Church in Chicago ?
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. That is correct.
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. The others followed in signing and they make the little ditto marks, showing that they signed in at the same time and were from the same area, visitors, and that they had the same phone number.
The CHAIRMAN. All of them gave the same?
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. That is correct. They signed. The first to sign after LaPaglia was a David White.
The CHAIRMAN. Is he one of those on the Main 21?
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. Most of these names were aliases and later were described to me by George Rose, who knew what names they signed under.
The CHAIRMAN. Go ahead. Just read what they signed there.
This, I assume, is the date. This is the place and these are the people and the names here, whatever they gave, are more or less irrelevant but they may have some significance.
Nr. FIALKEWICZ. David Lee White, Droop White, Leo Cross-Kraven, Angel.
The CHAIRMAN. Somebody signed "Angel.” Is that all he signed?
The CHAIRMAN. Suppose to be George Martin?
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. Yes. I conferred with him and he told me that is the name he uses now and then.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the next name?
The CHAIRMAN. Incidentally, is he a tall Negro, somewhat fitting the description of the one that the girl referred to in her affidavit that seemed to be the leader they had to talk to before they bought the food?
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. He answered the description but they all had the same height; generally the same height.
The CHAIRMAN. Go ahead.
The next name I cannot make out.
Mr. FIALKEWICZ. I couldn't identify him, and Rose could not remember who had signed such a name.
The CHAIRMAN. Who was the next one?
The CHAIRMAN. Now, can you identify these folks for us? TESTIMONY OF CHARLES LaPAGLIA; ACCOMPANIED BY COUNSEL
WILLIAM W. BRACKETT-Resumed
Mr. LAPAGLIA. Just the last one whose name is Chicken Hawk. The CHAIRMAN. Who is he?
Mr. LAPAGLIA. I can't recall his full name but his nickname was Chicken; he is not a member of 21; he was at the time but he is not now.
The CHAIRMAN. He was at that time?
The CHAIRMAN. What happened to him? Did he get purged or something?