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it out with me because they seen me more on the streets than they did Barksdale and they didn't know him as well as they knew me.

I would bring them to the man's place. This is where they began trusting me, you know. They were calling on me, like the boy going in a store and snatch a shirt out. I would probably make him go back in there and pay for it or settle it some other way.

Senator CURTIS. You lived in the Woodlawn area?
Mr. DORENZO. That is true.
Senator CURTIS. Barksdale lived in Englewood?
Mr. DORENZO. That is true.

Senator CURTIS. Barksdale wanted you to get back into this business
of gathering money because you lived there and knew about it?
Mr. DORENZO. That is right.
The CHAIRMAN. Go ahead with what happened on the 18th.

Mr. DORENZO. I refused him, as I said, about two or three times. He got angry. I didn't know what was wrong with him. He walked out of the door. He said to this group of boys that was sitting back, “You all can kill him if you want to."

The CHAIRMAN. How many were there?
Mr. DORENZO. About 20 members.
The CHAIRMAN. Did he get angry with you before you left?

Mr. DORENZO. No, he walked out calmly. I guess it was planned if I had said no. I would never have gone to the ballroom if I knew I was going to be assaulted.

The CHAIRMAN. When you said no, after he saw you were not going to agree, you say he turned around and walked out?

Mr. DORENZO. That is true.
The CHAIRMAN. What did he say as he walked out?
Mr. DORENZO. “You all can kill him if you want to."
The CHAIRMAN. Then what happened?

Mr. DORENZO. Then I was struck by one of the members with a chair to the head.

The CHAIRMAN. With a chair?
Mr. DORENZO. That is right.
The CHAIRMAN. Go ahead and tell your story.
Mr. DORENZO. Then I was struck by another one to

my that I was on the floor. They started beating me, you know. At that time he stopped them about 10 minutes later, I guess, I don't know how much time they kept on beating me. They took their time, I know that.

The CHAIRMAN. They did what?
Mr. DORENZO. They took their time, I know that.
The CHAIRMAN. They took their time?

Mr. DORENZO. Yes. I went to the washroom, wiped the blood from
my head.
The CHAIRMAN. You say Barksdale stopped them?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes.

I went to the washroom to wipe the blood from my face and my head, you know. Then David Barksdale came to the washroom with a knife and put it to my throat and said, “I sure could kill you but it is not worth it."

The CHAIRMAN. Did you have any weapons?
Mr. DORENZO. No.

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The CHAIRMAN. Did you have any chance with the gang when they beat you up there?

Mr. DORENZO. Twenty members? No.

The CHAIRMAN. What injury did they inflict upon you? You said you were bloody.

Mr. Dorenzo. I got quite a few holes in my head, you know. As I was leaving going to the hospital I was fired at by the Devil's Disciples.

The CHAIRMAN. Somebody shot at you?
Mr. DORENZO. That's right. I knew the gun they used because I knew
they had it in the ballroom.

The CHAIRMAN. They kept guns there?
Mr. DORENZO. That is true.

The CHAIRMAN. What injury did they do? Did you go to the hospital? What treatment did you get?

Mr. DORENZO. I got a lot of stitches, I think about 21.
The CHAIRMAN. Where?
Mr. DORENZO. In my head.
The CHAIRMAN. Twenty-one stitches?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. In your head, when you got to the hospital?
Mr. DORENZO. Plus I was creased by a bullet right here.
The CHAIRMAN. That bullet that they shot at you?
Mr. DORENZO. That's right.
The CHAIRMAN. They were shooting to kill?
Mr. DORENZO. That's right.
The CHAIRMAN. You have no doubt about that?
Mr. DORENZO. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. If it had been an inch or two over-
Mr. DORENZO. It put a pretty nice little gash in my head.
The CHAIRMAN. The bullet did ?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Very well. Go ahead.

Mr. DORENZO. When the officers got to the station I told them a lie, just to prevent further trouble from them.

The CHAIRMAN. What did you tell the officers?

Mr. DORENZO. Usually your story would be, you know, when somebody got jumped on by the group, that the Rangers did it.

The CHAIRMAN. You told them that the Rangers did it?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Trying to protect your own gang?
Mr. DORENZO. I was not trying to protect them. I was trying to pro:
The CHAIRMAN. Trying to protect yourself?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. You felt as if you had pretty well become con-
vinced they meant business?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. When a bullet ricocheted off your skull?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes.
Senator MUNDT. How did the officers locate you in the hospital?
Mr. DORENZO. When the officer came in who knew me, I talked to
him, I said, “Just forget about it.” I said, “I will”.

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Senator MUNDT. How did the officers discover the ruckus had taken place, the fight or the shooting ?

Mr. DORENZO. They did not. They were called by the hospital, you know, this is when the police- I walked to the hospital.

Senator MUNDT. The hospital said, “Better come to look this boy over" ?

Mr. DORENZO. Yes. I guess they didn't believe my story either.

The CHAIRMAN. What has happened since then? There is something about a check.

Mr. DORENZO. I don't remember the date but I remember I was first approached by Andrew Thompson.

The CHAIRMAN. Who is he?
Mr. DORENZO. He is a friend of David.
The CHAIRMAN. That is after they beat you up!
Mr. DORENZO. Yes. That was about a week later, I believe.

The CHAIRMAN. You had said that the Rangers did it so they approached you again?

Mr. DORENZO. That is true.

The CHAIRMAN. I guess they had thought you had changed your mind?

Mr. DORENZO. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Go ahead with your story.

Mr. DORENZO. He asked me, this is before I seen Barksdale, he said he had a check.

The CHAIRMAN. Barksdale told you that?
Mr. DORENZO. No, Andrew Thompson did.
The CHAIRMAN. Is he on this list?
Mr. DORENZO. No. He is not a member of the gang.
The CHAIRMAN. He is not a member of the gang?
Mr. DORENZO. No.
The CHAIRMAN. Go ahead.
Mr. DORENZO. He asked me could I get it cashed.

I said yes, I probably could. I went to May's Drug Store on 63rd and Drexel. I asked Mr. Mays, the owner, would he cash a check for my friend.

He said, "Yes, Nick.” I told him he doesn't have the check with him now but he will be in, you know. I left then. He cashed the check.

The CHAIRMAN. You did not actually present that check to be cashed?

Mr. DORENZO. No, I did not present that check.
The CHAIRMAN. But you introduced him to the storekeeper?
Mr. DORENZO. That is true.

The CHAIRMAN. So he could get the check and come back and cash it?

Mr. DORENZO. Yes. At that time I didn't know the check was stolen. When I did know that the check was stolen I seen Barksdale about ? hours later, with Robert Allen, which he gave me the second check.

The CHAIRMAN. Barksdale, 2 hours later, gave you a second check!

Mr. DORENZO. No, Robert Allen gave me a second check. They were already written out and signed on the back and everything. I took it into Kyros restaurant where I endorsed my name under it. He would not cash it unless I did.

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You know, I thought I was going to get caught but I did it anyway.
The CHAIRMAN. You knew your were going to be caught ?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Why did you know you were going to get caught?

Mr. DORENZO. Because I had to put my name on the bottom of the
boy it was made out to.
The CHAIRMAN. By that time you know the check was stolen?
Mr. DORENZO. I knew it then; it was stolen.

The CHAIRMAN. When you put your name on the check the second time you knew it was a stolen check?

Mr. DORENZO. That is true.
The CHAIRMAN. Why did you do it?
Mr. DORENZO. Because of what happened to me on June 18th.

The CHAIRMAN. You remembered what happened to you back on the 18th?

Mr. DORENZO. Yes.

The CHAIRMAN. Then what happened? Did the officers get in touch with you? How did this information get to the officers?

Mr. DORENZO. I don't know how the information got to the officers but I knew they got in contact with me.

The CHAIRMAN. They got in contact with you?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. You don't know how they got their information!
Mr. DORENZO. No.
The CHAIRMAN. When did they contact you
Mr. DORENZO. June 28th.
The CHAIRMAN. June 28th.
Senator Mundr. This year?
Mr. DORENZO. This year.
The CHAIRMAN. Just last Friday, is that right?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. They got in contact with you?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. About the check?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes.

The CHAIRMAN. Prior to their contacting you about this check, last Friday, did any member of this committee or any staff member or anyone ever talk to you about this matter?

Mr. DORENZO. No, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. All of your testimony here is testimony that has become known to the officers and to this committee, at least to this committee, since last Friday?

Mr. DORENZO. That is true.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you tell them the truth about it?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes, sir, I told him.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the story about the check?

Mr. DORENZO. The money they told me they needed to pay the rent on the 1st of July, you know.

The CHAIRMAN. What checks were they? You say they were stolen? Mr. DORENZO. They wasn't OEO checks, they wasn't project checks. They was some kind of checks from another project I guess they had.

The CHAIRMAN. They weren't checks connected with this project ?

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Mr. DORENZO. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. But checks connected with some other project?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Do you know whether Federal funds were involved?

Mr. DORENZO. The only thing I know it had the Woodlawn Organization, it might have been one of their checks.

The CHAIRMAN. The Woodlawn Organization. Let us get the checks here.

Here is a photostatic copy of one of the checks. Would you hand this to the witness and let him examine it?

State if that is a photostatic copy of the check or one of the checks to which you refer.

Mr. DORENZO. This check right here was handed to me by Robert Allen.

The CHAIRMAN. Is that the one that you endorsed ?

Mr. DORENZO. Yes. This is my name right here. I did not make the check out. It was already made out when I got it. I had to sign my name here.

The CHAIRMAN. In order to get the cash ?

Mr. DORENZO. That is true. This name was on it but he would not go with his name because he didn't know the boy. He knew me. Security is what he wanted.

The CHAIRMAN. What did you do with the money when you got the check cashed ?

Mr. DORENZO. I turned it back to Robert Allen.
The CHAIRMAN. Let this photostatic copy be made Exhibit 206.

(Document referred to was marked "Exhibit No. 206" for reference, and may be found in the files of the subcommittee.)

The CHAIRMAN. The original is in Chicago in the hands of the police. This check is one of the Woodlawn Organization checks.

Mr. DORENZO. They didn't have no program name on it.

The CHAIRMAN. 1113 East 63rd Street, Chicago, Ill. It is dated June 24, 1968, in the amount of $60, and presumably is made out to Leon Mays as payee.

Mr. DORENZO. When I seen the name

The CHAIRMAN. It is on the Southeast National Bank of Chicago. There is printed over the signature, “The Woodlawn Organization.” It appears to be signed by

Mr. DONEN ZO. Collins, I think.
The CHAIRMAN. Collins ?

Mr. DORENZO. Yes. Collins was treasurer or something. Them two signatures had to be on the check before it would be cashed.

The CHAIRMAN. Do you know if the check was forged or not, or if it was stolen after it was written out?

Mr. DORENZO. I believe the two treasurers' names were on it, and it was stolen.

The CHAIRMAN. You think the check was a legitimate check?

Mr. DORENZO. The name on the check is the boy that is in the penitentiary right now. I know the boy's name.

The CHAIRMAN. Mays?
Mr. DORENZO. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. IIe is a member of

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