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that they would be called out for a reduced from 78 to 56. Apparently short period of training, and that during this has never been carried out. I do that time they would, as a matter of not know quite what the local difficul. course, receive the full pay and allow- ties may be in the Island, but there ances received by Militia regiments. It seem to be difficulties in the way, and appears, however, that it was impossible the regiment has never yet been called to make an arrangement for this, and out for permanent training. If they the arrangement that was at last come were,

doubt the arrangement to was that they should give 78 half would be easy to carry out; but day's work, and that for those 78 half the difficulties, whatever they are, days the officers should receive half pay. lie in Malta. Under these circumSubsequently a very strong appeal was stances there has been no other alternamade by the officers of the regiment tive but to revert to the original that they should be allowed for a time arrangement of the 78 half days for to draw full pay. The reason given was half pay, and that is how the matter that there were large initial expenses stands now. Therefore, so far from in raising the regiment connected with there being any reduction in the pay uniform, band, and so on, and that as of the officers, all that has now been the regiment was raised from the done is really to revert to the original beginning the officers would have to arrangement made at the beginning. I give a great deal more time than the hope the noble Earl will be satisfied half time proposed when the regiment with that answer. was first raised. The Secretary of State,

EARL DE LA WARR: Did I corafter due consideration, made this concession for the year, and allowed the rectly understand that the terms were officers to draw full pay. Another 78 days' training for 78 days' pay? appeal was made at the end of the first

EARL BROWNLOW: Seventyyear, when the Secretary of State was again begged to extend the time for eight half days. I may mention that another year and allow these officers to the time for drill on those days has receive full pay. That concession was been fixed by His Royal Highness allowed for another year; but at that the Commander-in-Chief


three time it was on the distinct understand hours, which cannot be called a full ing that at the end of that period the

day. 78 half days should be given for half pay. My Lords, I think that these concessions on the part of the Secretary

TECHNICAL AND INDUSTRIAL INSTITUof State were certainly amply justified

TIONS BILL [H.L.]. by the conduct of the officers them- A Bill to facilitate the acquisition and selves. They applied themselves with holding of land by institutions for promoting great zeal and energy to making their technical and industrial instruction and trainregiment as efficient as they could, and, ing—Was presented by the Lord Macnaghten;

the noble Earl has already read 1a; to be printed; and to be read 21 on said, when they

paraded Thursday next. (No. 53.) for inspection before

His Royal Highness the Commander-in-Chief,

HARES BILL. His Royal Highness was able to ex

House in Committee (according to press his unqualified satisfaction at the efficiency of the regiment and the order) ; Bill reported without amendsoldierlike appearance of the men upon

ment; and re-committed to the Standparade. Again another appeal was ing Committee. made, and the Secretary of State took

House adjourned at a quarter the whole matter very carefully into

before Five o'clock. his consideration. The proposal then made was that the regiment should form a camp for ten days, during which time the officers were to receive not only full pay, but messing allowance, and that the number of days should be



at Gwalior.—(Mr. Seymour Keay.) throughout the county ?


THE HOME DEPARTMENT (Mr. Ordered, That the Examiners of Petitions MATTHEWS, Birmingham, E.): I have for Private Bills do examine the Crown Lands received a Copy of the Correspondence. Bill with respect to compliance with the The Lord Lie Standing Orders relative to Private Bills.

The Lord Lieutenant of Flintshire in

forms me that he is unable to ascertain MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.

the proportion between Conservative

and Liberal appointments to the Bench That they have passed a Bill, in

made by him, as his appointments have tituled, “ An Act to consolidate enact

never been influenced by political conments relating to the Marriage of

| siderations. He believes that few of British Subjects outside the United

the Magistrates speak Welsh ; but that Kingdom.” [Marriages Abroad Bill

in a large portion of Flintshire no [Lords.]

Welsh is spoken, and that in the Weish

speaking districts interpreters are EASTBOURNE IMPROVEMENT ACT, 1885,

always to be obtained, and in no case AMENDMENT BILL.

has there been a failure of justice owing Mr. Bartley, Mr. John Ellis, Admiral Field,

to want of knowledge of Welsh on the Mr. Henry H. Fowler, and Sir Henry James nominated Members of the Committee, with

Bench. In the Rhyl district the Lord Four Members to be added by the Committee Lieutenant has recently appointed of Selection.-(Mr. Akers-Douglas.)

three Magistrates, two of whom are

Welsh-speaking gentlemen. It is no QUESTIONS.

part of my duty to interfere with the

discretion of the Lord Lieutenant in FLINTSHIRE MAGISTRATES. selecting suitable persons to be placed MR. S. SMITH (Flintshire) : I beg on the Commission of the Peace. to ask the Secretary of State for the

MR. S. SMITH: The right hon. Home Department whether the atten

Gentleman has not answered my question of the Government has been drawn

tion as to whether there is only one to a recent Correspondence between

Protestant Nonconformist on the the Rhyl Liberal Club and the Lord

Bench? Lieutenant of the County of Flint on

MR. MATTHEWS: I have no inthe subject of the appointment of

formation as to the religion of any of Magistrates in Flintshire ; whether he the Magistrates. is aware that very great dissatisfaction exists at the small number of Liberals! THE PROBATION OF FIRST who are placed on the Bench-namely,

OFFENDERS ACT, 1887. some ten only out of a total of 90 MR. S. SMITH: I beg to ask the Magistrates ; whether he is aware that Secretary of State for the Home Dethere is only one Protestant Noncon-partment whether he will issue an formist on the Bench, while fully two- official Circular to Magistrates, Rethirds of the population of the county corders, and Chairmen of Quarter are Nonconformists, and whether he is Sessions, inviting their further conaware that there are a considerable sideration of the provisions of “ The number of Nonconformists resident in Probation of First Offenders Act, the county who are qualified, legally 1887," especially in view of the stateand otherwise, for appointment as ment made by Her Majesty's Commis

sioners of Prisons for England and *THE UNDER SECRETARY OF Wales in their last Report that, in at STATE FOR INDIA (Mr. CURZON, least some districts, the local prison Lancashire, Southport) : The Secretary Governors are “not aware of the Act of State has no information on the having been applied at all,” and in subject. view also of the figures in the latest MR. MAC NEILL: May I ask can “ Judicial Statistics,” showing that the Secretary of State procure informore than half of all the persons pro- mation on the subject ? ceeded against summarily in the year *MR. CURZON: We are expecting were of previous good character," later on a detailed Report upon the whilst another large proportion had Census; but if the information desired “nothing known against them?”

by the hon. Member is not contained MR. MATTHEWS: I propose to therein, I do not think there will be issue a Circular calling attention to Section 16 of the Summary Jurisdiction any advantage in asking for it. Act, and to the Probation of First



I beg to ask the Postmaster General MR. MAC NEILL (Donegal, S.): 1 if he will cause inquiry to be made into beg to ask the Chief Secretary to the the way the recently appointed "charge Lord Lieutenant of Ireland how many taker," Mr. A. Taplin, in the General unclassed teachers have been appointed Post Office, Dublin, was selected for to national schools in Ireland during the position, and whether due regard the years 1888, 1889, 1890, and 1891 was had to the claims, on the grounds respectively; and under what circum- of service and fitness for the position, stances can the manager of a school of other employés ; whether this officer appoint an unclassed teacher of whose has charge of the male and female qualifications he is satisfied ?

domestic servants of the department; *THE CHIEF SECRETARY FOR and whether he can state the grounds IRELAND (Mr. JACKSON, Leeds, N.): for the dismissal of six of the female The Commissioners of National Educa- servants since Taplin took charge, the tion report that in the years named religion of the servants dismissed, and the numbers of unclassed teachers ap- of those who were appointed to their pointed have been as follows:-1888, places ? 48; 1889, 23; 1890, 18; 1891, 18. THE POSTMASTER GENERAL Several of these teachers had previously (Sir J. FERGUSSON, Manchester, N.E.): been monitors. Appointments of this Altogether four candidates applied for nature are considered by the Commis- the situation, and Mr. Taplin was sioners where a person possessing the selected by the Postmaster General as qualifications of a classed teacher can being by far the best qualified for the not be found to fill an occurring duties to be performed. The charvacancy, but conditional on his imme- women of the department are under diately passing a preliminary entrance his control. There are no male domestic examination for provisional classifica- servants. The charwomen are not tion in the third class. For his con- established servants, nor are all of them tinued recognition he is required to regularly employed, some of them being pass the general examination next paid by the job. happening.

these persons have left since Mr. Taplin

became charge taker. Of these eight, OFFICIALS EMPLOYED ON THE

two left in consequence of age ; one left INDIAN CENSUS.

in con quence of illness; one resigned; MR. MAC NEILL: I beg to ask the and four were dismissed for drunkenUnder Secretary of State for India ness and general misconduct. Neither how many Europeans, Eurasians, and of those who have left nor of those Indians were officially employed in con- who have succeeded them is the renection with the taking of the recent ligion known; nor is it the practice of Census in India ?

the department to inquire.


MR. P. O'BRIEN: I beg to ask the MR. P. O'BRIEN: I beg to ask the Financial Secretary to the War Office Postmaster General whether he can whether he will inquire if regiments state the grounds upon which a candi- stationed in Ireland are largely supplied date named E. C. Conlan, who twice with groceries and other dry goods, obpresented himself for preliminary tainable in Ireland, from the Army and examination for the office of sorting Navy Stores, London; whether any, clerk in the General Post Office, and, if so, how many, of the officers of Dublin, in 1892, was each time re- regiments stationed in Ireland are jected ?

shareholders and have other financial SIR J. FERGUSSON: The grounds interests in the Army and Navy Stores; were, not being tall enough and not whether it has come to his knowledge being sufficiently educated.

that any officers so interested in the

Army and Navy Stores have used their WEST INDIAN SUGAR.

influence in their regiments to procure MR. WATT (Glasgow, Camlachie) :

orders for Army supply from that esI beg to ask the Under Secretary of tablishment to the injury of Irish State for the Colonies whether the traders, who are taxed to support the Secretary of State will take into con

British Army; and what action he prosideration, with regard to any perma- poses to take in the matter ? nent reductions in duties proposed upon

*THE FINANCIAL SECRETARY articles imported into the West Indian TO THE WAR OFFICE (Mr. BRODColonies from the United States, the RICK, Surrey, Guildford): This matter fact that although the United States, was very carefully considered in 1890. under the M'Kinley Tariff, have agreed I can only repeat what has been said to admit West Indian sugars duty by the Secretary of State. No comfree, they have granted a bonus equi- plaints have been received on the subvalent to the former scale of duties to ject. The canteens supplying groceries home producers; and whether altera- to the troops are managed by the regitions in the existing Customs tariffs of mental committees, who act indepenthe Colonies will necessitate higher dently of the War Office, and are free duties on all articles exported from the to obtain their supplies from whatsoUnited Kingdom to these Colonies ? ever source they think fit.

THE UNDER SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE COLONIES (Baron DEBTS OF VOLUNTEER REGIMENTS. H. de WORMS, Liverpool, East Tox MR. ISAACS (Newington, Walteth): In entering into the arrange- worth): I beg to ask the Financial ment with the United States Govern- Secretary to the War Office if his atment, under which the duties imposed tention has been called to an unrein certain West Indian Colonies on ported case of“ Herbert & Co. v. Silver,” various articles imported chiefly, I judgment in which was given by the though not exclusively, from the United Hon. Mr. Justice Day on the 19th States have been reduced, Her January last at Guildhall Sittings of Majesty's Government took into con- the Queen's Bench Division, and in sideration the fact that a bounty is which the learned Judge directed the granted in the United States to home jury that each member of the Finance producers of sugar. Alterations in the Committee of a Volunteer Regiment existing Customs tariffs of the Colonies was personally liable for debts of the will not necessitate higher duties on all regiment; and, if so, whether he is articles exported from the United prepared to issue a Regulation under Kingdom to these Colonies.

the powers contained in “ The VolunMR. SUMMERS (Huddersfield) : teer Act, 1863," Section 16, by which Can the right hon. Gentleman say when the liability of the members of the Papers on the subject will be laid on Finance Committee should be limited the Table ?

to the amount of the public funds at BARON H. DE WORMS: They are the disposal of the commanding officer, in preparation.

in whom all the property of the regi


ment is vested by Section 25 of the *MR. JACKSON : The Commissaid Act, or otherwise, to obviate the sioners of National Education report possibility, under the authority of the that the teacher mentioned was dissaid case, of individual members of the missed by the manager of the school on Finance Committee being personally 31st December, 1891. In communisued for regimental debts ?

cating the dismissal to the Board, the *MR. BRODRICK: It is not the manager stated that he had determined duty of the Finance Committee of a the service of the teacher in conseVolunteer corps to give orders on be- quence of repeated acts of insubordinahalf of the regiment; if it does so, it tion, together with other displeasing renders itself liable for the expense of features of his conduct. Certain comsuch orders. Regulations now under plaints had been previously made by consideration will make it quite clear the manager against the teacher. The where the responsibility for orders, Commissioners had them inquired into given on behalf of the regiment, rests. by their Inspector, and, having con

sidered his Report, decided that the THE COST OF UNIFORMS OF case did not demand further action on

HIGHLAND REGIMENTS. their part. They duly notified their COLONEL NOLAN (Galway, N.): I decision to

the manager

17th beg to ask the Financial Secretary to December. the War Office what is the entire cost entailed on the Estimates by dressing THE WEARING OF THE SHAMROCK. Highland regiments in their national SIR T. ESMONDE (Dublin Co., S.): costume?

I beg to ask the Financial Secretary to *MR. BRODRICK: The clothing of the War Office whether the Sergeant the Scottish regiments of the Line and Major of the Carlow Militia is correctly of the Militia costs about £15,000 a reported, when ordering the men to reyear more than the clothing of the move their shamrocks from their caps same number of ordinary Infantry region St. Patrick's Day, to have told them ments.

to throw


those tufts of grass ;"

and, if so, whether he will be repriTELEGRAPH OFFICE, LITTLE DOWN-manded for making of this HAM, CAMBRIDGESHIRE.

observation ? MR. BRAND (Cambridge, Wisbech): *MR. BRODRICK : As the hon. I beg to ask the Postmaster General Baronet is aware from recent diswhether he will take into consideration cussions, no soldier is allowed to the claims of Little Downham, in Cam- wear any decoration on parade, exbridgeshire, for a postal telegraph office, cept with the permission of his comin so much as this parish has a popula- manding officer. My right hon. Friend tion of 2,000 people, and has no tele-(Mr. Stanhope) has, I think, satisfied graph office or second delivery of the House that he has no desire to run letters?

counter to the national sentiment in Sir J. FERGUSSON: The hon. this matter, but as the order, under Member has, I find, been informed the circumstances,

perfectly that the office could only be established proper, he has not felt it necessary under a certain guarantee.

to inquire as to the exact terms in



the hon. Gentleman say how this MR. T. W. RUSSELL (Tyrone, S.): statement can be reconciled with the I beg to ask the Chief Secretary to the fact that men of the Welsh Fusiliers Lord Lieutenant of Ireland what were are allowed to wear the leek on parade the circumstances attending the dis on St. David's Day? missal of Mr. A. Gallagher, national *MR. BRODRICK : I think

my school teacher, Ballyscally, County answer covers that point. With the Tyrone ; and when the Commissioners permission of the commanding officer of Education propose to make public this or any other emblem may be worn. their decision on the Inspector's Re. It is not alleged that in the present inport made in November last ?

stance such permission was sought, and



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