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HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON COURTS, CIVIL LIBERTIES,

AND THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-THIRD CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

ON

H.R. 236, H.R. 674, H.R. 2167, H.R. 3100, H.R. 5195,
H.R 10979, H.R. 10980, H.R. 13001, H. Con. Res. 144,

and H. Con. Res. 385

RELATING TO AMNESTY

MARCH 8, 11, AND 13, 1974

Serial No. 35

Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON : 1974

31-658

J857

1974e

COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

PETER W. RODINO, JR., New Jersey, Chairman
HAROLD D. DONOHUE, Massachusetts EDWARD HUTCHINSON, Michigan
JACK BROOKS, Texas

ROBERT MCCLORY, Illinois
ROBERT W. KASTENMEIER, Wisconsin HENRY P. SMITH III, New York
DON EDWARDS, California

CHARLES W. SANDMAN, JR., New Jersey WILLIAM L. HUNGATE, Missouri

TOM RAILSBACK, Illinois JOHN CONYERS, JR., Michigan

CHARLES E. WIGGINS, California JOSHUA EILBERG, Pennsylvania

DAVID W. DENNIS, Indiana JEROME R. WALDIE, California

HAMILTON FISH, JR., New York WALTER FLOWERS, Alabama

WILEY MAYNE, Iowa JAMES R. MANN, South Carolina

LAWRENCE J. HOGAN, Maryland PAUL S. SARBANES, Maryland

M. CALDWELL BUTLER, Virginia JOHN F. SIEBERLING, Ohio

WILLIAM S. COHEN, Maine GEORGE E, DANIELSON, California

TRENT LOTT, Mississippi ROBERT F. DRINAN, Massachusetts

HAROLD V. FROEHLICH, Wisconsin CHARLES B. RANGEL, New York

CARLOS J. MOORHEAD, California BARBARA JORDAN, Texas

JOSEPH J. MARAZITI, New Jersey
RAY THORNTON, Arkansas

DELBERT L. LATTA, Ohio
ELIZABETH HOLTZMAN, New York
WAYNE OWENS, Utah
EDWARD MEZVINSKY, Iowa

JEROME M. ZEIFMAN, General Counsel
GARNER J. CLINE, A 88ociate General Counsel

HERBERT Fuchs, Counsel
HERBERT E. HOFFMAN, Counsel
WILLIAM P. SHATTUCK, Counsel
H. CHRISTOPHER NOLDE, Counsel

ALAN A. PARKER, Counsel

JAMES F. FALCO, Counsel
MAURICE A. BARBOZA, Counsel
FRANKLIN G. POLK, Counsel

Roger A. PAULEY, Counsel
THOMAS E. MOONEY, Counsel

PETER T. STRAUB, Counsel
MICHAEL W. BLOMMER, Counsel

ALEXANDER B. COOK, Counsel
CONSTANTINE J. GEKAS, A88ociate Counsel

SUBCOMMITTEE ON COURTS, CIVIL LIBERTIES, AND THE ADMINISTRATION OF

JUSTICE

ROBERT W. KASTENMEIER, Wisconsin, Chairman GEORGE E. DANIELSON, California

TOM RAILSBACK, Illinois ROBERT F. DRINAN, Massachusetts

HENRY P. SMITH III, New York WAYNE OWENS, Utah

CHARLES W. SANDMAN, JR., New Jersey EDWARD MEZVINSKY, Iowa

WILLIAM S. COHEN, Maine
HERBERT FUCHS, Counsel
WILLIAM P. Dixon, Counsel

BRUCE A. LEHMAN, Counsel
THOMAS E. MOONEY, A88ociate Counsel

CONTENTS

533

157

Text of

H.R. 236.

H.R. 674.

H.R. 2167

H.R. 3100.

H.R. 5195.

H.R. 10979.

H.R. 10980

H.R. 13001.

H. Con. Res. 144.

H, Con. Res. 385.

Testimony of-

Abzug, Hon. Bella, a Representative in Congress from the State of

New York...

Armstrong, Hon. 0. K., in behalf of Veterans of World War I.

Barger, Rev. Robert Newton.-

Benade, Lt. Gen., Leo E., Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for

Military Personnel Policy; accompanied by Col. Victor A. De Fiori,

Office of Secretary of Defense for Military Personnel Poliey

Bowles, Glenn, Manager of Operations, Selective Service System.-

Brown, Ronald H., director, Washington Bureau, National Urban

League

Cary, Dr. W. Sterling, president, National Council of Churches of

Christ in the U.S.A., accompanied by Rev. Richard Killmer,

Director of Special Ministry, Vietnam Generation, member, National

Council of Churches staff; and E. William D. Galvin, Jr., Emergency

Ministry on Conscience and War, United Presbyterian Church.

Cavin, H. Lynn, immediate past national commander, Marine Corps

League

Charles, Hopkins, D., Deputy General Counsel, Selective Service

System.-

Credle, James, Clergy and Laity Concerned.

Damato, Edward, national coordinator, Vietnam Veterans Against the

War, Chicago, Ill -

Darling, E. Fred, executive coordinator, Military and Veterans Affairs,

Non-Commissioned Officers Association of the U.S.A.; accompanied

by H. Lynn Cavin, immediate past national commander, Marine

Corps League.-

De Fiori, Col., Victor A., Office of Secretary of Defense for Military

Personnel Policy, Department of Defense-
Dellums, Hon. Ronald V., a Representative in Congress from the State

of California.

Ensign, Tod, counsel for Lewis Simon.

Freeman, Harrop A., Friends Committee on National Legislation;

accompanied by Raoul Kulberg ---

Froehlke, Hon. Robert F., president of the Sentry Corp., and former

Secretary of Defense..

Galvin, E. William D., Jr., Emergency Minstry on Conscience and

War, United Presbyterian Church

Gruening, Hon. Ernest, former U.S. Senator from the State of Alaska.

Hehir, Rev. J. Bryan, Director, Division of Justice and Peace, United

States Catholic Conference

Hoover, Warren, Church of the Brethren..
Jones, F. P., Colonel USA (retired), director, National Security and

Foreign Affairs, Veterans of the Foreign Wars of the United States.
Killmer, Rev. Richard, Director of Special Ministry, Vietnam Genera-

tion, Member, National Council of Churches Staff.

533

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559

401

380

216

168

480

267

380
Page 603 430

201

157

239

527

239 415

224 422

480

422 471

38

Testimony of-Continued

Koch, lion. Edward I., a Representative in Congress from the State

of New York.-
Kulberg, Raoul.
Levine, Ms. Jacqueline, co-chairman, Governing Council, American

Jewish Congress
Morse, Esq., Walter H., General Counsel, Selective Service System;

accompanied by Glenn Bowles, Manager of Operations: Hopkins,
Charles, Deputy General Counsel; and S. R. Shaw, L and L Officer-
Mott, Jeremy, Midwest secretary, the Central Committee for Con-

scientious Objectors.--
Mullen, Mrs. Peg, State chairman, Iowa Gold Star Families; accom-

panied by Rev. John Smith, professor of history, St. Ambrose Col-
lege, Davenport, Iowa..
Musil, Robert K., Associate Secretary, the Central Committee for Con-

seientious Objectors; accompanied by Jeremy Mott, Midwest Secre

tary-
Norton, Jerry W., Young Americans for Freedom.
O'Neil, James F., past national commander, the American Legion; ac-

companied by ald E. Stringer, Director, National Legislative
Commission; and James R. Wilson, Director, National Security

Commission
Pearle, Lynn, Americans for Democratic Action.
Poling, James N., on behalf of the Church of the Brethren, general

Board; accompanied by Ralph E. Smetzer, Church of the Brethren,

and Warren Hoover..
Rauh, Esq., Joseph, Jr., vice chairman, Americans for Democratic Ac-

tion; accompanied by Lynn Pearle...
Rutherford, Ms. Sandra, Vancouver American Exsolve Association...
Schardt, Arlie, associate director, American Civil Liberties Union, and

co-author, Amnesty? The Unsetlled Question of Vietnam -
Schwarzschild, Henry, Director, Project on Amnesty, American Civil

Liberties Union Foundation; accompanied by Arlie Schardt, Asso-
ciate Director, ACLU, and co-author, Amnesty? The Unsetiled

Question of Vietnam -
Shaw, S. R., L and L Officer, Selective Service System.
Siegel, Larry, Legislative Assistant, on behalf of Hon. Howard W.

Robison, a Representative in Congress from the State of New York.
Simon, Abe, on behalf of Lewis Simon; accompanied by Tod Ensign,

counsel for Lewis Simon...
Simon, Mrs. Patricia, on behalf of Gold Star Families for Amnesty-
Smetzer, Ralph E., Church of the Brethren..
Smith, Rev. John, professor of history, St. Ambrose College, Daven-

port, Iowa..
Spencer, Wayne, Clergy and Laity Concerned...
Stringer, Herald E., Director, National Legislative Commission, the

American Legion ..
Struve, James, representing the Wisconsin Amnesty Project; accom-

panied by Edward Damato, national coordinator, Vietnam Veterans
Against the War, Chicago, Ill., and Sandra Rutherford, Vancouver

American Exsolve Association..
Taft, Hon. Robert, Jr., a U.S. Senator from the State of Ohio..
Ulman, Hon. Leon, Deputy Assistant Attorney General; accompanied

by Robert W. Vayda, Criminal Division, Department of Justice--
Vayda, Robert W., Criminal Division, Department of Justice..
Wells, Rev. John, Major USAF (retired), attorney, former special

consultant, U.S. Department of Defense 1964–1969, SANE ---
Wilson, James R., Director, National Security Commission, The

American Legion.-
Young, Ms. Trudi, national coordinator, Clergy and Laity Concerned;

accompanied by James Credle and Wayne Spencer.
Additional information-
Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts:
Chart from 1973 Semi-Annual Report of the Director, showing

disposition of defendants charge with Selective Service Act

violations -
Table, convictions for violations of Selective Service acts.

38 157

617

401 309 480

527 279

223

471 337

29 29

210

224

279

350

348

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