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importance of this matter, and the desirability of paying more attention than we do to our Reserves. The noble Lord says it is the duty of the Government to assist British shipowners, in their competition with foreign shipowners, to man their vessels exclusively with British subjects. It is one thing to encourage, but another to assist, and I very much doubt whether the shipowners themselves would say that to debar them from the employ ment of foreign seamen would assist them largely in their competition

with their rivals. I believe it is necessary that they should have some foreign seamen. I will not detain the House longer. I think the country will be grateful to the noble Lord for bringing this question before their minds, and I trust it will be taken up in the country, and

that some scheme in the direction of a more complete organisation of our maritime population may be the result.

Fleet. During the time I had the honour of being in the Admiralty, I received, on several occasions, deputations on the subject of the manning of the mercantile marine, and I admitted to two deputations that I conceived it to be of the highest importance to the Royal Navy that the Merchant Navy should be well manned and prosperous. The two Services, must go together. The happiness and success of the mercantile marine must be bound on to that of the Royal Navy. But, my Lords, the subject is so intricate and so difficult that I really must refrain from going into it on the present occasion. I am quite sure that the question is of great importance, and if, on a later occasion, either Her Majesty's Government, or any individual Member of this House, submits some concrete proposal on this subject, I for one should feel it then my duty to take part in the Debate, and I should do so with the greatest possible pleasure.

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THE EARL OF DUDLEY: In reply to the noble Viscount, I will read the section of the Act of Parliament

VISCOUNT CLIFDEN: My Lords, I EARL SPENCER: My Lords, I do not want to ask a question which fifty years propose to enter at length into this subject. I rise rather to apologise, or to ago I could have answered myself. Is a sailor entitled to the rating of "A.B." explain why I do not discuss it at any if he serves four years at sea, whether on length. The subject is divided into two a steamer or a sailing vessel? There is parts. The first part relates particularly mighty little seamanship about now, and to the Royal Navy, with which Service I I think it is incumbent on the Board of had the honour of recently being con-Trade to see that the ships are better nected; and the other part of the subject relates to most important questions connected with the management of the mercantile marine. Now, my Lords, I rather deprecate the discussion of abstract Resolutions of this kind without a concrete proposal being formulated, either by the Government or by a noble Lord, which the House, as a whole, could discuss. My noble Friend who has just spoken has made a most interesting and very able speech. With a great deal of what he has said I concur, but I must at once say I fear he is wrong in supposing this country will be prepared to depart from the voluntary system in connection with the enlistment of sailors for the Earl of Ravensworth.

"A seaman shall not be entitled to the rating of 'A.B.-i.e., of able-bodied seamanunless he has served at sea four years before the mast."

THE LORD CHANCELLOR: Does the noble Lord press his Motion?

LORD MUSKERRY: No, my Lord; I beg to withdraw it.

Motion, by leave, withdrawn.

House adjourned at 6.20.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Friday, 20th May 1898.

LONDON, BRIGHTON AND SOUTH COAST RAILWAY BILL. [H.L.] Reported, with Amendments; Reports to lie upon the Table, and to be printed.

GREAT EASTERN RAILWAY (PENSIONS)
BILL.

MR. SPEAKER took the Chair at Table, and to be printed.
Three of the Clock.

Reported; Reports to lie upon the

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MARIANAO AND HAVANA RAILWAY
COMPANY BILL. [H.L.]

Read the third time, and passed, without Amendment.

MORLEY CORPORATION (GAS) BILL.

[H.L.]

METROPOLITAN POLICE (PROVISIONAL
ORDER) BILL.

MR. SPICER (Monmouth Burghs): I am anxious to ask for an explanation from the Government to some of these clauses. Under this Bill the Receiver General is empowered to take certain lands which belong to the Bishopsgate Foundation, a very important Foundation

Read the third time, and passed, with which is doing magnificent work at the

Amendments.

MUMBLES RAILWAY AND PIER BILL.
Read the third time, and passed.

present time in its reorganised condition. As the Bill stands, that Foundation will have to part with its property, which is on a very favourable lease, and they lose the reversion.

MR. SPEAKER: This will stand over till Mcnday.

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ELECTRIC LIGHTING PROVISIONAL
ORDERS (No. 3) BILL.

Reported, without Amendment [Provisional Orders confirmed]; Report to lie

As amended, considered; to be read upon the Table; Bill to be read the the third time.

third time upon Monday next.

COMMONS REGULATION (RUNCORN), EAST INDIA (CONTAGIOUS DISEASES).
PROVISIONAL ORDER BILL.
Against State Regulation: From Leeds,

"To confirm a Provisional Order, under Glasgow (2), and Pontefract, to lie upon the Inclosure Acts, 1845 to 1882, relating the Table. to Runcorn Heath and Runcorn Hill, in the county of Chester."

Ordered to be brought in by Mr. Walter Long and Mr. Hanbury.

Presented, and read the first time; referred to the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills, and to be printed. [Bill 225.]

GROCERS' LICENCES (SCOTLAND)
ABOLITION BILL.

In favour From Ayr, Tain, Kirriemuir, Haddington, West Calder, Berwickand Conan Bridge, to lie upon the Table. on-Tweed, North Queensferry, Wishaw,

LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROVISIONAL ORDER (No. 10) BILL. "To confirm a Provisional Order of the Local Government Board relating to the borough of Devonport."

MIDWIVES' REGISTRATION BILL.

In favour From Farnworth, Guildford, Canterbury, Lavender Hill, Stopham, New Moston, Bodmin, Fulham and Hammersmith, Wigton, Blackpool, Gordon Branch of Women's Guild, Wallsend,

Ordered to be brought in by Mr. T. W. Bristol (3), Harrogate, Stowmarket, Russell and Mr. Chaplin.

Presented, and read the first time; referred to the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills, and to be printed. [Bill 226.]

Bexhill, Rotherhithe, Plumstead, Plymouth, Burgh-by-Sands, Roby, Ambleside, Shotley Bridge, Derby, Wottonunder-Edge, Eccles, Storrington, Oxford, Brampton, Heaton and Newcastle, Nottingham, Bolton, Louth, Gunnislake Stratford-on-Avon and Snitterfield, Warwick, Long Eaton, Lancashire and Cheshire, Clifton, Gateshead, Poplar, TRAMWAYS ORDER IN COUNCIL Brighton, Cornwall, Scarborough, Mary. (IRELAND) (LONDONDERRY AND port, Aberystwyth, Wells, Winscombe, LOUGH SWILLY RAILWAY) BILL. Wickham Market, Berkhampstead, Stock"To confirm an Order in Council of port, Rothwell, Tottington, Gannow, St. the Lord Lieutenant and Privy Council Ives, Wigan, Sheerness, Kingston-onin Ireland relating to the Londonderry and Lough Swilly Railway."

Ordered to be brought in by Mr. Attorney General for Ireland and Mr. Solicitor General for Ireland.

Presented, and read the first time: referred to the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills, and to be printed. [Bill 227.]

PETITIONS.

ARMY PENSIONS.

For weekly payment: From Poplar, and Forden, to lie upon the Table.

Thames, Liverpool (5), Sawston, Swansea, Honiton, Totterdown, Leicester, Aylesbury, Haslingden, Lincoln, Halifax, Harrogate, Nottingham, Stoke Newington, Eccles, East Grinstead, Banbury (2), Darlington (2), Enfield, Carlton (2), Wednesbury, Bristol, Stafford, Huddersfield (2), Chelsea, Lewes, Sullington, London (9), Croydon (2), Alresford, Manchester (2), Farnley, St. Thomas, Sheffield (4), Beverley, West Hartlepool, Midhurst, West Bowling, Kensington, Oxford, Lydbrook, Colchester, Macclesfield, Rotherham (2), Eastleigh, Sunderland, Bedford, Norwich, Southend-on-Sea, Gainsborough, Wallsend, Stairfoot, St. Helens (2), Leicester, Little Lever, Gloucester, Hornsey, Nottingham (3), Doncaster, Oswaldtwistle, Ramsgate, Glasgow (2), Hayward's Heath, Preston, Henley, Leatherhead, Darlington, Oldham, Chichester (2),

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