of it after hearing the evidence of the Great Western manager. There were no two opinions with regard to that point. As has been said, the main difficulty was that the money promised for the promotion of this line was altogether inade quate, and, although those who are now asking for the Bill to be re-committed have not quarrelled at all in any sense with the decision of the Committee on that point, it was the only reasonable decision to which the Committee could come; although, for my own part, I differ from my colleagues on that particular point, because I considered it was quite possible for additional financial arrangements to be made in the time that would elapse between the Bill leaving the Commons and going to the Lords. MR. NEWDIGATE: I would like to point out to the House that when this question was before the Committee the honourable Member never took the trouble to divide upon that point, nor to have his objection recorded in the Journals of the Committee. I think the honourable Member is treating the Committee rather badly on this point. not have been much sense in that, when the numbers were three to one; but I do not think that any Member of the Committee mistook my meaning in regard to it, or that I hesitated to express my opinion. I am sure every member of the Committee will know that to the very last I took the view which I have expressed here, that it would be a wise and proper thing to allow the Bill to go on. Now, Sir, I take it that the arguments that have been brought forward by the honourable Member for the Carnarvon District would not have been brought forward unless he had very good reason for saying what he did. He said that there were improved financial arrangements almost ready. Perhaps he is not willing to commit himself to any definite sum, or any definite contribution-but I do not think he would make such a statement if he had not known that there was a reasonable prospect of it coming about. As it is not a very long matter, I think the House might, in a case like this, considering the unanimous opinion of all the local authorities, re-commit this Bill. Question put. The House divided:-Ayes MR. GODDARD: It is true that I did not divide the Committee. There would Noes 178.-(Division List No. 115.) 89; Austin, M. (Limerick, W.) Billson, Alfred Blake, Edward Brookfield, A. Montagu Carew, James Laurence Colville, John Condon. Thomas Joseph Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Chas. Doughty, George Duncombe, Hon. Hubert V. Field, William (Dublin) AYES. Giles, Charles Tyrrell Hammond, John (Carlow) Jones, Wm. (Carnarvonshire) Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred McDonnell,Dr. M.A. (Qn.'sCo.) M'Hugh, E. (Armagh, S.) Shaw, Chas. E. (Stafford) Sheehy, David Spicer, Albert Stanhope, Hon. Philip J. Steadman, William Charles Stevenson, Francis S. Sullivan, Donal (Westmeath) Sullivan, T. D. (Donegal, W.) Tanner, Charles Kearns Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen) Aird, John Allhusen, Augustus H. E. Ashmead-Bartlett, Sir Ellis Banbury, Frederick George Cameron, Sir C. (Glasgow) Dixon-Hartland, Sir F. D. Ellis, John Edward (Notts) NOES. FitzGerald, Sir R. Penrose- Galloway, William Johnson Hozier, Hon. James H. Cecil Lawrence, Sir E. (Cornwall) Morley, Rt. Hn. J. (M'ntrose) Rasch, Major Frederic Carne Russell, T. W. (Tyrone) Sinclair, Capt. J. (Forfarsh.) Stanley, Lord (Lancs.) Stanley, H. M. (Lambeth) Thorburn, Walter Tritton, Charles Ernest Vincent, Col. Sir C. E. H. TELLERS FOR THE NOES- NORWICH ELECTRIC TRAMWAYS BILL. | reference to the alteration of the sites of Reported, with Amendments; Repo:t parish churches, and of the districts to lie upon the Table, and to be printed. attached, and with reference to collegiate charges." YEOVIL CORPORATION BILL [H.L.] Reported, with Amendments; Report to lie upon the Table, and to be printed. PLYMOUTH CORPORATION BILL. LONDON AND NORTH WESTERN RAIL- Also a Bill intituled "An Act for conferring further powers upon the London and North Western Railway Company in relation to their Chester and Reported; Report to lie upon the Holyhead Railway; and for other purTable, and to be printed. poses." GREAT CENTRAL RAILWAY BILL. Ordered, That the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on the Great Western Railway (Additional Powers) Bill of Session 1897 and the Harrow, Uxbridge, and High Wycombe Railway Bill of Session 1897 be referred to the Committee on the Great Central Railway Bill of this Session.-(Dr. Farquharson.) LONDON AND NORTH WESTERN RAILWAY BILL [H.L.] Also а Bill intituled "An Act for conferring further powers upon the London and North Western Railway Company in relation to their own undertaking, and other undertakings in which they are interested jointly with other companies; and for other purposes." CLONTARF AND HILL OF HOWTH Also a Bill intituled An Act for making a tramroad in the county of Dublin; and for other purposes." PRIVATE BILL PROCEDURE. Ordered, That the Chairman of Ways and Means be discharged from attendance on the Local Government (Ireland) Provisional Orders (No. 2), Local Government (Ireland) Provisional Orders (No. 3) Pilotage Provisional Order, Gainsborough Gas, Drogheda Gas, Crystal Palace Company, Cromer Gas, Easton and Church Hope Railway (Extension of Time), Bombay, Baroda, and Central India Railway Company [H.L.], Cranbrook and Paddock to authorise the Urban District Council Wood Railway [H.L.], Crowhurst, Sidley, of Kettering to purchase the undertaking and Bexhill Railway [H.L.], and Liskeard of the Kettering Waterworks Company; Corporation Water [H.L.] Bills, and that and for other purposes." Mr. John Ellis be appointed Chairman of the Committees on the said Bills.-(Dr. Farquharson.) Also KETTERING WATER BILL Bill a "An Act HALIFAX CORPORATION BILL [H.L.] BACUP CORPORATION WATER BILL [H.L.] Also a Bill intituled "An Act construct additional waterworks; and for other purposes." Also a Bill intituled "An Act to empower the Mayor, Aldermen, and Burgesses of the county borough of Hali- to empower the Mayor, Aldermen, and fax to construct additional waterworks, Burgesses of the borough of Bacup to tramways, street widenings, and improvements; to confer further powers with respect to their gasworks undertaking; to amend some of the provisions of the local Acts in force within the borough; and for other purposes." FOLKESTONE WATER BILL [H.L.] That they have agreed to- EDINBURGH AND DISTRICT WATER MORLEY CORPORATION GAS BILL [H.L.] GREAT ORME TRAMWAY AND MERSEY DOCKS AND HARBOUR BOARD (NEW WORKS) BILL [H.L.] Without Amendment. ATTENDANCE OF CHILDREN AT That they have passed a Bill intituled "An Act to further amend the law of Scotland with respect to the attendance of children at school." HAMILTON WATER BILL [H.L.] Also a Bill intituled "An Act for authorising the Hamilton Waterworks Commissioners to make and maintain additional waterworks, and for conferring further powers upon those Commis sioners; and for other purposes." LONDON AND NORTH WESTERN RAILWAY (WALES) BILL [H.L.] Read the first time, and referred to the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills. LONDON AND NORTH WESTERN Read the first time, and referred to the CLONTARF AND HILL OF HOWTH TRAMROAD BILL [H.L.] Read the first time, and referred to the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills. KETTERING WATER BILL [H.L.] Read the first time, and referred to the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills. TYNEMOUTH CORPORATION WATER Read the first time, and referred to the HALIFAX CORPORATION BILL [H.L.] FOLKESTONE WATER BILL [H.L.] Read the first time, and referred to the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills. HAMILTON WATER BILL [H.L.] Read the first time, and referred to the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills. LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROVISIONAL METROPOLITAN POLICE PROVISIONAL *MR. SPICER (Monmouth Boroughs): Before this Bill is read a Third Time I should like to say a word or two, because if it passes in its present shape it will do great injustice, and will entail a Ordered, That the Bill be read a second very heavy loss on a charity which is now time To-morrow. LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROVISIONAL ORDERS (No. 6) BILL. doing extremely good service. This Bill gives the Government power to purchase certain lands for police court purposes, and part of these lands which it is thus authorised to obtain are the property of Ordered, That the Bill be read a second the Bishopsgate Foundation. This is the time To-morrow. LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROVISIONAL ORDERS (GAS) BILL. foundation with which the late Rev. Mr. Rogers was so closely identified, and he was the means of re-organising it in 1891. It is now placed on a broad and liberal Ordered, That the Bill be read a second basis, and is doing splendid work in the time To-morrow. LAND DRAINAGE PROVISIONAL ORDER (HACCONBY FEN) BILL. Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time To-morrow. LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROVISIONAL way of a technical institute in the City of Ordered, That the Bill be read a second tary loss, and the charity will be unable time To-morrow. LOCAL GOVERNMENT (IRELAND) PROVISIONAL ORDER (No. 4) BILL. Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time To-morrow. ELECTRIC LIGHTING PROVISIONAL ELECTRIC LIGHTING PROVISIONAL to do as much work as they otherwise would. Although I do not intend to divide the House on the question, I do venture to ask whether the Government are not prepared to give some extra consideration, in view of the nature of the charity and in view of the work that it is doing. It is not as if the Government were dealing with a private individual. It is dealing with a charity that is effecting large good in the City. There is no other institution of the kind, and by taking this land you are confining its operations, because the difference between the amount now received from the land the Government propose to take and the interest from Consols which the money will have to be invested in is a very large |