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IMPOUNDMENT REPORTING AND REVIEW

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON RULES

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-THIRD CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

H.R. 5193 and Related Bills (With Appendix,
H.R. 8480, as amended, with report)

TO REQUIRE THE PRESIDENT TO NOTIFY CONGRESS
WHENEVER HE IMPOUNDS FUNDS, AND TO PROVIDE A
PROCEDURE UNDER WHICH THE HOUSE AND SENATE
MAY DISAPPROVE THE PRESIDENT'S ACTION AND RE-
QUIRE HIM TO CEASE SUCH IMPOUNDING

MARCH 28, 29; APRIL 4, 5; MAY 7, 8, 14, AND 21, 1973

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Anderson, Hon. John B., a Representative in Congress from the State
of Illinois..

Cederberg, Hon. Elford A., a Representative in Congress from the State
of Michigan_____

Conte, Hon. Silvio O., a Representative in Congress from the State of
Massachusetts

Culver, Hon. John C., a Representative in Congress from the State of Iowa-
Danielson, Hon. George E., a Representative in Congress from the State
of California-

Eckhardt, Hon. Bob, a Representative in Congress from the State of
Texas

Ervin, Hon. Sam J. Jr., a U.S. Senator from the State of North Carolina__

Esch, Hon. Marvin L., a Representative in Congress from the State of

Michigan

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147

339

156

139

Pickle, Hon. J. J. (Jake), a Representative in Congress from the State of
Texas

Pepper, Hon. Claude, a Representative in Congress from the State of
Florida

319

87

Rhodes. Hon. John J., a Representative in Congress from the State of
Arizona

122

Maass, Arthur, Frank B. Thompson professor of government, Harvard

University

Pollak, Louis H., professor of law, Yale University.

Sneed, Hon. Joseph T., Deputy Attorney General, statement__

CONGRESSIONAL WITNESSES

380

253

Abzug, Hon. Bella S., a Representative in Congress from the State of New
York, statement--.

499

Alexander, Hon. Bill, a Representative in Congress from the State of Ar-
kansas, statement__

493

Evans, Hon. Frank E., a Representative in Congress from the State of Colo-
rado, letter to Chairman Madden....

491

Ford, Hon. William D., a Representative in Congress from the State of
Michigan, statement.-

491

Hungate, Hon. William L., a Representative in Congress from the State of
Missouri, statement_.

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IMPOUNDMENT REPORTING AND REVIEW

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 28, 1973

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
COMMITTEE ON RULES,
Washington, D.C.

The committee met at 10:30 a.m., pursuant to notice, in room 2154, Rayburn Office Building, Hon. Ray J. Madden (chairman of the committee) presiding.

The CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order.

I might say that the reason why the Rules Committee is holding hearings in this room, the Government Operations Committee room, instead of our regular room over in the Capitol is because of the interest not only locally but over the Nation in the impounding legislation now pending in Congress.

In these hearings we will proceed with the chairman of the Appropriations Committee, who is one of, I think, 34 Members who have filed bills on this subject. He will be followed by other witnesses today, including Mr. Cederberg, the ranking minority member of the Appropriations Committee.

Tomorrow, on account of Chairman Holifield using this committee room, we will proceed with the hearings down the hall in the Foreign Affairs Committee room.

I wish to thank the Foreign Affairs Committee and also Chairman Holifield for allowing us to use their rooms. The hearings tomorrow will be in room 2172, on this floor.

I might state that today we start hearings on one of the most serious constitutional challenges ever to confront Congress.

The legislative impoundment crisis brought on by the Nixon administration demands firm and prompt exposure not only to the Members of Congress but to the Nation. Members of Congress and the Senate have been deluged with mail and telephone calls in protest from their constituents against President Nixon's impounding of numerous domestic programs passed by the Congress in recent years, and this legislation is for the benefit of millions of American citizens, mostly in the middle lower income brackets of the Nation.

These impoundments include legislation pertaining to our elder citizens, unemployed, handicapped, veterans, and those needing Government assistance.

The American public should know that since President Nixon was inaugurated over 4 years ago approximately $11.1 billion of funds have been impounded which cover legislation on housing, education, health, transportation, antipollution, hospital construction, veterans hospitals, small business loans, watershed and flood prevention, help

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