if willing to do so, assume management of Pro- | his right hon. and gallant Friend, they tectorate without delay. They, therefore, rewould have an opportunity of asking for quest you to obtain information whether, and under what arrangement, the Colonial Governit on the Report. ment will now propose to Parliament annexation of so much territory as it considers it desirable to include in Colony, and protection of remainder of Protectorate.' He trusted that the present Government intended to act on the same policy. The question was one of great difficulty, and could only be solved satisfactorily if their Representatives acted cordially together, and as far as possible in sympathy with their Colonial fellow-subjects. He was glad to see that Sir Hercules Robinson was on friendly terms with the Cape Government. On the other hand, it was most unfortunate that the relations between Sir Charles! Warren and the Cape Colony were far from friendly. In the meantime, while they were unable to meet their expenditure at home, and were compelled to borrow £4,000,000, they were spending hundreds of thousands in this remote region for no definite object or purpose. He trusted that the Government would be able to say that the relations between Sir Hercules Robinson and Sir Charles Warren were more harmonious; to give some assurance that steps were being taken to put an end to the large expenditure of which the British taxpayer had great reason to complain, and the advantage of which to the Native tribes was, after all, very doubtful; and last, but not least, that they would not, without most careful consideration, commit us to any further responsibilities in South Africa. MR. LYULPH STANLEY said, he thought they were entitled to have some definite statement from the Government on this question. Although it was late in the Session, and they were all anxious to see their way to leave Westminster for a time, this was a very much more important matter than holiday making. If the Government were not prepared to give the explanation he would move to report Progress. THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER said, he hoped the hon. Member would not persevere in his Motion. It was on account of the importance of this matter that his right hon. and gallant Friend was not able to make a more definite statement. If hon. Members were anxious for further information, and thought it could properly be given after they had considered the remarks of Sir John Lubbock MR. COURTNEY, upon that sugges. tion, considered they should be told when the Report would be taken. If it was to be taken at a reasonable hour, he saw no reason why the Vote should not be allowed to pass. THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER: We will take it at as early an hour as possible. Vote agreed to. REVENUE DEPARTMENTS. (3.) £4,254,659, to complete the sum for the Post Office. CIVIL SERVICE ESTIMATES. Monument. SIR WILFRID LAWSON: When shall we have an opportunity of discussing this Vote? THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHE QUER: On Report. SIR WILFRID LAWSON: When? THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER: To-morrow. Resolutions to be reported To-morrow. NAVY AND ARMY EXPENDITURE, 1883-4. Considered in Committee. (In the Committee.) 1. Resolved, That it appears by the Navy Appropriation Account for the year ended the 31st March 1884, as follows, viz. :— (a.) That the gross expenditure for certain ceipts by a total sum of £49,362 18s. 6d., (c.) That the resulting differences between Total Surpluses... 250,608 13 4 2. Resolved, That the Commissioners of Her Majesty's Treasury have temporarily autho Number of Navy Services, 1883-4, rised the application, in reduction of the net charge on Exchequer Grants for certain Navy Services, of the whole of the sums received in excess of the estimated Appropriations in Aid, in respect of the same Services (subject to the subsequent surrender out of Exchequer Grants for Navy Services of the before-recited net sum of £40,381 5s. 6d., by which the total of such receipts exceeded the estimate); and have also temporarily authorised the application of so much of the said total surpluses on certain Grants for Navy Services as is necessary to cover the said total deficits on other Grants for Navy Services. 3. Resolved, That the application of such sums be sanctioned. Wages, &c. to Seamen and Marines Victuals and Clothing for ditto Admiralty Office Coast Guard Service and Naval Reserves, &c... Scientific Branch Dockyards and Naval Yards at Home and Abroad Victualling Yards, &c... Medical Establishments, Excesses of Gross Surpluses of Estimated over Actual Gross Deficiencies of Actual as of Actual as 2,797 2 10 40,556 18 5,221 19 11 4,842 11 10 3,561 18 10 7 15 10 1,086 2 1 291 15 3 34,543 13 9 25,499 8 5 4. Resolved, That it appears by the Army Ap- ! propriation Account for the year ended 31st March 1884, and the statement appended thereto, as follows, viz: (a.) That the gross expenditure for certain Army Services exceeded the estimate of such expenditure by a total sum of £26,927 158. as shown in Column No. 1 of the Schedule hereto appended; while the gross expenditure for other Army Services fell short of the Estimate of such expenditure by a total sum of £291,924 9s. 10d. as shown in Column No. 2 of the same appended Schedule; so that the gross actual expenditure for the whole of the Army Services fell short of the gross estimated expenditure by the net sum of £264,996 14s. 10d. (b.) That the receipts in aid of certain Army Services fell short of the estimate of such receipts by a total sum of £143,877 2s. 3d. as shown in Column No. 3 of the said appended Schedule; while the receipts in aid of other Army Services exceeded the estimate of such receipts by a total sum of £63,642 88. 3d. as shown in Column No. 4 of the said appended Schedule; so that the total actual receipts in aid of the Grants for Army Services fell short of the total estimated receipts by the net sum of £80,234 148.; (c.) That the resulting differences between the Exchequer Grants for Army Services and the net expenditure are as follows, viz. : £ s. d. Total Surpluses 258,396 0 6 Total Deficits..... 73,633 19 8 5. Resolved, That the Commissioners of Her Majesty's Treasury have temporarily autho rised the application, in reduction of the net charge on Exchequer Grants for certain Army Services, of the sums received in excess of the estimated appropriations in aid, in respect of the same Services, and have also temporarily authorised the application of so much of the said total surpluses on certain Grants for Army Services as is necessary to cover the said total deficits on other Grants for Army Services. 6. Resolved, That the application of such sums be sanctioned. therein for the appointment of Pubic Works Loans Commissioners. Bill presented, and read the first time. [Bill 254.] THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER said, it might be possible. MR. RAMSAY: Would the right hon. Gentleman state when the SecreEAST INDIA, ARMY PENSIONS DEFICIENCY tary for Scotland Bill will be taken? BILL. On Motion of Sir HENRY HOLLAND, Bill to provide for the discharge of the liability of the Consolidated Fund in respect of certain Indian Army Pensions, ordered to be brought in by Sir HENRY HOLLAND and Colonel WALROND. Bill presented, and read the first time. [Bill 255.] ADJOURNMENT. Motion made, and Question proposed, "That this House do now adjourn.". (Sir Henry Holland.) MR. H. H. FOWLER desired to ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer a question as to the prospects for to-morrow. Would the right hon. Gentleman allow the Criminal Law Amendment Bill to come before the Telegraph Bill? The Criminal Law Amendment Bill was of the greatest possible interest, and he ventured to hope the right hon. Gentleman would allow it to be taken to-mor row. MR. SEXTON asked whether the Report of Supply would be taken first thing? THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHE QUER (Sir MICHAEL HICKS-BEACH), in reply, said, that the Report of Supply would be taken as the first Order tomorrow, as some hon. Members had postponed their remarks that afternoon in order to make them on Report. He was afraid that the Telegraph Bill would also have to come on before the Criminal Law Amendment Bill, because he was under an engagement with regard to it-unless there was a general feeling in the House to the contrary to-morrow. MR. H. H. FOWLER thought that there would be a very general feeling in the House to-morrow, notwithstanding the expressions of dissent he heard from several Members. The Criminal Law Amendment Bill would take at least two nights in Committee. He was quite sure the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Reading (Mr. Shaw Lefevre) would be glad to fall in with any arrangement with regard to the Telegraph Bill. He might suggest that if substantial progress was made with the Telegraph Bill, it could be postponed at a reasonable hour to allow the Criminal Law Amendment Bill to be taken. [No reply.] It being Six of the clock the House stood adjourned till To-morrow. HOUSE OF LORDS. Thursday, 30th July, 1885. MINUTES.]-Took the Oath for the First Time -The Lord Bishop of Truro. SELECT COMMITTEE Fifth Report-Office of the Clerk of the Parliaments and Office of the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod. Customs and Metropolitan (222); Patent PUBLIC BILLS-First Reading Inland Revenue (No. 2) (220); Lunacy Acts Amendment * (221); Police Staff Superannuation Law Amendment * (223). Second Reading-Public Health (Scotland) Provisional Order (No. 2)* (188); Smoke Nuisance Abatement (50); Copyhold Enfranchisement (185). negatived; Pluralities (213); Poor Law Unions' Officers (Ireland) (214); Metropolitan Board of Works (Money) * (209). Committee-Earldom of Mar Restitution (217). Committee-Report-Medical Relief Disqualification Removal (207); Bankruptcy (Office Accommodation) * (191). Report Parliamentary Elections (Corrupt SMOKE NUISANCE ABATEMENT (METROPOLIS) BILL.-(No. 50.) (The Lord Stratheden and Campbell.) SECOND READING. Order of the Day for the Second Reading read. LORD STRATHEDEN AND CAMPBELL: My Lords, I rise to move the second reading of the Bill on Smoke Abatement. Let me first explain the interval which has elapsed since it was read a first time this Session. Down to the middle of June I was absorbed by questions far more urgent in their character. The course of Parliament was then long interrupted. When it was resumed on the 6th of July, there was little chance of getting such a measure through the House of Commons for the |