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The CHAIRMAN. Then they are not making very good contracts, because I can buy coal cheaper than you are buying it.

Col. SHERRILL. Personally I bought some coal some time ago for my private use and it cost me $15.50, anthracite coal.

HEATING OFFICES, WATCHMEN'S LODGES, ETC. The CHAIRMAN. For heating offices, watchmen's lodges, and greenhouses at the propagating gardens you are asking $2,000. Explain that, Colonel.

Col. SHERRILL. That is a park item, and also the item for the propagating gardens. It is also for the purpose of heating the various lodges and comfort stations we have throughout the parks, as well as for heating the main office and the offices of the foremen.

The CHAIRMAX. Is this based on a higher price for coal, a larger quantity of coal, or a determination not to live within the appropriation ?

Col. SHERRILL. It is based on a higher price for coal, because we use practically the same with some increase due to power quality. In 1920 we used 449 tons of furnace coal, 23 tons of stove coal, and 21 tons of nut coal; in 1921 we used 422 tons of furnace coal, 11 tons of stove coal, and 28 tons of nut coal, so that the amount of coal used last year was less.

The CHAIRMAN. How did you arrive at the exact sum of $2,000? Did you just guess at it?

Col. SHERRILL. No; we made an estimate of what we would need.
The CHAIRMAX. Have you figured it out?
Col. SHERRILL. Yes, sir; we figured it out.
The CHAIRMAN. How did you get at it! Give us the figures.

Col. SHERRILL. Taking 500 tons, which is about the amount we burned in the past, and multiplying it by $12.39, you get $6,195.

The CHAIRMAN. Then you do not need $6,500?

Col. SHERRILL. It is $6,000 plus $500 which we put in to pay for our share of heating the building in which the offices of public buildings and grounds are located. Heretofore those offices have been heated out of funds furnished by the War Department without reimbursement.

The CHAIRMAN. They are furnishing the heat now?

Col. SIIERRILL. They have been, but they now and properly demand that we pay our share, and our share would be a little over $600, but there has been estimated, to take care of the building, $500 additional.

The CHAIRMAN. It all comes out of the Treasury of the United States, so what is the use of appropriating for it twice?

Col. SHERRILL. Under the rule that we have to pay for what we get we would have to reimburse their appropriation.

The CHAIRMAN. Give us the next item.

CARE AND MAINTENANCE OF THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT.

Col. SHERRILL. The next item is for the care and maintenance of the Washington Monument. I have here a detailed statement as to the basis on which this estimate was made. The amount of coal burned is 360 tons at $12.39, making a total of $4,460; 40 cords of wood at $12, $480; 300 gallons of oil at 60 cents, $180.

The CHAIRMAN. What kind of oil ?

Col. SHERRILL. That is engine oil and kerosene oil. The item is for fuel, light, oil, waste, packing, etc., under the head of the care and maintenance of Washington Monument. We will be able to run the Washington Monument with the funds we have until April 1, but without additional funds it will be necessary to close the elevator at that date and to light the monument with oil lamps.

The CHAIRMAN. How much did you have for 1922?

Col. SHERRILL. For 1920 we had $4,500 and for 1921 we had $5,000. The monument was closed approximately three months in 1921 on account of a breakdown in the machinery.

The CHAIRMAN. How much have you for 1922?

Col. SHERRILL. We have estimated for 1922 $5,500, and appropriated so far $4,500.

The CHAIRMAN. And you are asking for $2,000 additional ?
Col. SHERRILL. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Why is it that the cost keeps going up on all these things every year? Do you do any more in one year than you do in another?

Col. SHERRILL. No; the operation of that monument is practically the same each year except for the three months' breakdown in 1921; we run it the same number of hours every day and the same number of days in the year.

The CHAIRMAN. You ran it for $3,000 in 1915, 1916, 1917, and 1918, and now you are going up to $6,500. I can not quite understand it.

Col. SHERRILL. It is simply a difference in the cost of materials and labor.

The ('HAIRMAN. All of these costs prevailed during the war and during those years you did not go up to $6,500. I do not imagine the costs are as high now as they were during the war.

Col. SHERRILL. The only costs I have before me are for 1920 and 1921.

The CHAIRMAN. In 1918 you had $5,000, which was during the war, and after the war, in 1919, 1920. and 1921, you had $1,500, with a deficiency appropriation of $500 in 1921.

Col. SHERRILL. The difference in the cost of maintaining the Washington Monument is mainly a question of the difference in the price of coal, a difference between $9.69 and $12.39.

The CHAIRMAN. How much coal did you use?
Col. SHERRILL. Three hundred and fifty-five tons.

The CHAIRMAN. There is a difference of $2.70 in the price of coal per ton, and with the use of 355 tons that would mean $958.30, while you are asking for $2,000. If there is nothing that makes any difference except the coal, how do you explain the difference between $958.50 and $2,000?

Col. SHERRILL. The estimate includes fuel, lights, oil, waste, packing, etc., connected with the operation of the power plant at the Washington National Monument and has been increased from $4,500 to $6,000 to provide for these things and the increased cost of coal and the increased amount made necessary by the inferior grade furnished. In addition to the increase of $1,500 it was considered necessary to add $500 to provide for interior painting, which should be done in the monument during the coming fiscal year.

The CHAIRMAX. According to your own figures the difference amounts to $958.50.

Col. SHERRILL. Then there is $500 that was added in order to do necessary painting inside of the monument.

The CHAIRMAN. Then there is $500 more of which you have not given us an account, but that only makes $1,458.50, and you are asking for $2,000. It is necessary for us to keep figures.

Col. SHERRILL. And you are pretty good at it; I will say that. I have here the total of this estimate in detail; I read to you some of the first items; then going on down-paint, scrub brushes, toilet paper, soap, soap powder, boiler compounds, etc., $400; electric lamps, $100; ice, $50; inspector, $12; miscellaneous labor, painting, carpenter work, and plumbing, $600; and repairs to the machinery, $300, making a total of $6,582. That is the total estimate in detail.

The CHAIRMAN. If we give you $1,000 you will have all you need for your coal, will you not, and you said that was the principal item?

Col. SHERRILL. That is the absolutely vital item, but we absolutely need all estimated.

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 1922.

EMPLOYEES' (OMPENSATION COMMISSION.

STATEMENT OF MR. CHARLES H. VERRILL, COMMISSIONER.

The CHAIRMAX. You are asking that $600,000 remain available until expended. Please tell us why you need $600,000 and, second, why do you have to make payments!

Nr. VERRILL. Because this amount is necessary to continue the payments of compensation to June 30.

The CHAIRMAX. Please tell us in detail?

Mr. VERRILL. It is based exclusively on the experience of the last six months of the calendar year; that is, the first six months of the fiscal year. Our expenditures for that period averaged $214,000.

The CHAIRMAN. For six months?

Mr. VERRILL. Yes, sir; $214,000 a month for six months. Now, those expenditures are somewhat below normal because we are somewhat behind hand in making medical payments, and so we accepted those figures with an increased expenditure of $10,500 per month on account of the permanent disabilities and death claims allowed during the first six months of the year. Those are continuing payments. We have to make an allowance for the cumulative ones and we make $10,500 a month for that purpose. So the total amount that will be needed from January 1 to June 30 is $1,374,000. We had a balance on January 1 of $746,000, and so we estimate that the amount needed is $600,000.

The CHAIRMAX. What is the amount needed ?
Mr. VERRILL. $1,347,000.
The CHAIRMAX. How is that reached?

Mr. VERRILL. We reached the principal part of that on the experience of the first half of the year. There is no question of the amount falling off within the second half of the year.

The CHAIRMAN. And $10,000 additional!
Mr. VERRILL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Why?

Mr. V'ERRILL. Because of the death awards during the first six months on which we must continue to make payments, also for permanent disabilities which are long continuing and disabilities that come in during the first six months that will have to be carried. Furthermore, I mentioned the fact that we have been behind hand in making medical payments the past year to be taken care of out of

this money.

PAYMENTS FOR PERSONAL INJURIES TO GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES.

The CHAIRMAX. What class of cases?
Mr. VERRILL. Personal injuries of Government employees.

The CHAIRMAN. What compensation do they receive and for what class of injuries?

Mr. VERRILL. For any injury sustained while in the performance of duty in the Government service, $66.67 a month.

The ChairMAX. That is according to the pension act?

Mr. V'ERRILL. That is the maximum being paid in the case of the monthly pay being $100. When it is less than that, it is two-thirds the monthly pay.

The CHAIRMAN. How many cases have you now?
Mr. VERRILL. About 8.500 a year.

The ('HAIRMAN. What do you provide in case of death, what is the compensation?

Mr. VERRILL. When I said 8,500, I meant new cases. The compensation in the case of death is 35 per cent to the widow.

The (HAIRMAN. Thirty-five per cent of the pay?

Mr. VERRILL. Yes, sir. That ordinarily would be $35 a month and then for each child under 18 years of age 10 per cent additional until 18 years of age, with the same limit of $66.67 per month.

The CHAIRMAN, Ilow many cases have you altogether in which you are paying?

Mr. VERRILL. It would be something like 1,300 death claims on which awards have been made and on which we are paying now.

The (IIAIRMAN. Up to now?

Mr. V'ERRILL. Yes, sir. In addition to that there would be something like probably 450 permanent cases.

The CHAIRMAX. How long under this law do they stay on the disability roll?

Mr. VERRILL. During disability.
The CHAIRMAX. There is no limit to time?
Mr. VERRILL. There is no limit to time.
The CHAIRMAX. Who decides when the time has expired?
Mr. VERRILL. The commission upon all the evidence.

The CHAIRMAN. How often is there required an examination for restoration to normal condition?

Mr. VERRILL. It depends on the case. If a man is blind or has a leg amputated, there is no necessity for repeated examinations, but we have a medical certificate with each payment where change is possible.

CHECKING TEMPORARY DISABILITY CASES,

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The CHAIRMAN. What other classes of cases have you?
Mr. VERRILL. Temporary disability:
The CHAIRMAN. What do they consist of?

Mr. VERRILL. A man may be injured in his work and when he gets over his disability and returns to work we stop paying him.

The CHAIRMAN. Do you stop to inquire whether it will take a longer time for him to get back to work than it ought to take?

Mr. V'ERRILL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What system do you have for that?

Mr. VERRILL. As a routine measure we would have him submit to a thorough medical examination, and if we then had some doubts we would instruct the doctor to explain why disability was continuing so long. Then if that report was not entirely satisfactory, we would have an investigation made. We would ask the man's official superior to make a special report on the case, and if it were not practicable for him to do it, because of his not being in touch with the case, or because we had more confidence in our own information, we would have an investigation of our own made.

The CHAIRMAN. Have you any special system by which those investigations are made at given periods?

Mr. VERRILL. We have medical examinations, and we insist upon very thorough investigations being made, depending upon the nature of the case. They may be made once a month, once in two months, or once in three months, depending upon the nature of the case. A special personal investigation would not be made of a routine case, because in the average case the reports we get would be entirely satisfactory.

The CHAIRMAN. How do you know that a man does not stay on this pension roll or compensation roll longer than he ought?

Mr. VERRILL. We have to depend, in the first instance, upon the man's official superior.

The CHAIRMAN. But if the man's official superior did not continue with him

Mr. VERRILL (interposing). We would rely in most cases upon the medical reports, and there are two classes of medical reports. One is from the doctor to whom the man is sent for treatment, and then we have special examinations made. In the special examinations we go into the very questions you are raising--that is, whether it is possible for a man to be still disabled in spite of the long time that has elapsed.

Mr. Woop. Suppose a man working down here in the Navy Yard falls and breaks a rib? I presume that under ordinary circumstances he would be entitled to compensation until he went back to work. Unless there is something else the matter with him, the doctor would know about how long it would take for him to be all right again, or how long it would take him to recover from a fractured rib.

Mr. VERRILL. Yes, sir.

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