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COMMITTEE REFORM AMENDMENTS OF 1974

OPEN BUSINESS MEETING

OF THE

SELECT COMMITTEE ON COMMITTEES
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-THIRD CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

MARKUP OF HOUSE RESOLUTION,
COMMITTEE REFORM AMENDMENTS OF 1974

FEBRUARY 4, 6, 7, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25, 27, 28; MARCH 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,

AND 13, 1974

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... SELECT COMMITTEE ON COMMITTEES

RICHARD BOLLING, Missouri, Chairman

DAVE MARTIN, Nebraska, Vice Chairman ROBERT G. STEPHENS, JR., Georgia. PETER H.B. FRELINGHUYSEN, New Jersey JOHN C. CULVER, Iowa

CHARLES E. WIGGINS, California LLOYD MEEDS, Washington

WILLIAM A. STEIGER, Wisconsin PAUL S. SARBANES, Maryland

C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida CHARLES S. SHELDON II

MELVIN M. MILLER Chief of Staff

Deputy Chief of Staff GERALD J. GRADY

SPENCER M. BERESFORD Professional Staff Member

Counsel LINDA H, KAMM

ROBERT C. KETCHAM Counsel

Special Counsel WALTER J. OLESZEK

ROGER H. DAVIDSON Professional Staff Member

Professional Staff Member TERENCE T. FINN

ROSE M. SANKO Staff Consultant

Secretary MARY E. ZALAR

BARBARA K. RODRIGUEZ Professional Staff Member

Secretary ELLEN E. LEAKE

Secretary LORREN V. ROTH Secretary

LINDA G. STEPHENSON

Ohief Olerk
JOAN BANNON BACHULA

Research Assistant

(II)

COMMITTEE REFORM AMENDMENTS OF 1974

MONDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 1974

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
SELECT COMMITTEE ON COMMITTEES,

Washington, D.C. The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:10 p.m., in room 321, Cannon Office Building, Hon. Richard Bolling (chairman of the committee) presiding.

Present: Representatives Bolling (presiding), Stephens, Sarbanes, Martin, Frelinghuysen, Steiger, and Young.

Also present: Charles S. Sheldon II, chief of staff, Melvin M. Miller, deputy chief of staff, Gerald J. Grady, Spencer M. Beresford, Linda H. Kamm, Robert C. Ketcham, Walter J. Õleszek, Roger H. Davidson, Terence T. Finn, Mary E. Zalar, Linda G. Stephenson, and Joan B. Bachula.

Chairman BOLLING. We do not yet have a quorum, but the committee will begin. We are only going to discuss one subject today. I would like to apologize to our guests because of the size of the room. We are limited very much in rooms that we can obtain. On the basis of the interest shown today, we will try to get a larger room. We are not sure that we will succeed. We will try.

Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. There may be less interest after they hear us perform, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman BOLLING. Very well taken.

The process that we are about to undertake I would like to describe. I would anticipate that if I misstate it, members of the committee will correct me.

We spent nearly a year in hearings and study, soliciting earnestly the views of anybody who would express an interest as to how we should approach this particular problem of reorganizing the way in which the House committees are organized and in which they do their work. We thought it would be wise to give all the people with an interest inside the Congress and outside the Congress an opportunity before we began to take final action to look at what our tentative proposals were.

The process by which we reached those tentative proposals was elaborate, and highly informal, and the proposals are tentative.

The process that we are about to begin is to lead to a more formal fashion of reaching a decision. We have a committee print, of which we think there are, at least in the beginning, an adequate number. It is the committee print No. 1 dated February 1, 1974, called a . working draft.

We do not propose to deal with that in the fashion of reading it line by line. What we hope to do is to discuss in public, and argue in pub

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