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THE CHAIRMAN: Were those who were active in making these demands, did they attend these meetings to carry on a dialogue

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THE CHAIRMAN: So you try to accomodate them, and that really is not what they want. Simply their goal is destruction, is it

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MR. BRUNSVOLD: It certainly appeared to be.

THE CHAIRMAN: Was there any better way you could accomodate them than with a discussion to hear their point of view, as you proposed to do, I assume, with these meetings? Is that right?

MR. BRUNSVOLD:

THE CHAIRMAN:

We felt we had given them an opportunity.

This was the purpose of it, to give them

an opportunity to come and discuss their demands, was it not?

I should make clear that the invitation

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THE CHAIRMAN: I don't mean the SDS. You made your invi-
tations to all members of the student body, did you not?
MR. BRUNSVOLD: That is correct.

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THE CHAIRMAN: You said you would not communicate through the SDS, but you extended it to all students, recognizing.

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all groups, so the invitation went to SDS as much as anyone else? MR. BRUNSVOLD: Yes, indeed.

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THE CHAIRMAN: And they did not participate and take

MR. BRUNSVOLD: Not more than one, to the best of my know

ledge.

THE CHAIRMAN: What I mean is, these leaders agitating

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and causing the disorders did not attend to bring about a reconciliation or understanding of this grievance, did they?

MR. BROWSVOLD: That is true.

THE CHAIRMAN: What I am emphasizing here, and what this omphasizes to me is that they did not care. They would rather have a disagreement than an agreement. They would rather pursue teir objective of creating disorders and dissent and bringing

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All right.

MR. ANDERSON: On January 29, a small group of students

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again most members of SDS, demonstrated at SRI's Hanover Street

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and attempted to engage them in conversation. They were not
allowed to enter the building.

On April 3 of this year the so called "SRI Coalition" held a meeting to discuss what it called plans for control of SRI. According to those organizing the meeting, the sponsoring groups included: SDS, Resistance, Peninsula Observer, Stanford

United Christian Ministry, March 4th Convocation, Peninsula

Red Guard, Junior Faculty Forum, United Students Movement, New

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University Conference, Committee for New Politics, Palo Alto

Concerned Citizens, Mid-Peninsula Free University, North Santa

Clara Peace and Freedom Movement, and American Federation of

Teachers, Local No. 1816.

More than 800 people attended the meeting in Dinkelspiel

6 Auditorium on thecampus.

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The group voted to demand that the Stanford Trustees "discontinue all plans for severance of SRI fromthe University

that inétead SRI be brought under tighter control by the University and that guidelines be established for socially acceptable

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The group also voted to oppose "ali classified research at SRI as well as the University and all research in the areas of chemical and biological warfare and counterinsurgency at home and abroad and research in support of war against the people-of Vietnam, Laos and Thailand.

This was the birth of the April 3rd Movement ar the name for the anti-SRI/anti-University activity, and in the ensuing weeks it was this somewhat loose-knit group of organizations supplemented by many unaffiliated students that signed and dis.... tributed circulars, organized meetings, and participated in

demonstrations.

On April 9, following a rally in Dinkelspiel Auditorium, some 400 people mostly students forced their way into the

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This was the incident that was described by Professor

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Rambo this morning.

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On April 14, the Scott Committee released its report with

the majority recommending the sale of SRE. Three members of the

committee supported closer ties between the Institute and the

University for the express purpose of achieving control over SRI

research activities.

THE CHAIRMAN: How many members on that committce?

MR. ANDERSON: 12 Members, siz.

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the radicals?

MR. ANDERSON: I believe that is correct, yes, sir.

THE CHAIRMAN:

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I use your term. You called them radicals.
There were four student members, I believe,

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of this committee -- two of the students -- I would have to check

but two of the students and one other wished

to bring the Stanford Research Institute under the intimate con

trol of the University in order to control the type of research we did.

THE CHAIRMAN:

That is what this losse coalition had wanted,

so out of 12 members of the committee, they got the support of

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THE CHAIRMAN: Do they belong to one of the other of these

MR. ANDERSON: No, sir, I do not.

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MR. ANDERSON: I could not say.

Wouldn't the records reflect that?

MR. ANDERSON: We did not have these records, Senator.

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MR. ANDERSON: There were six students, Mr. Brunsvold

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THE CHAIRMAN: So half of the students on the committee, I

10 believe you said only two of the students?

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MR. BRUNSVOLD:

Perhaps I can clarify. There were 12

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members of the committee, six of which were students.

Among those

two students were among the three committee members

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THE CHAIRMAN: Two of the six students supported the position

of this coalition group?

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MR. ANDERSON: Seven members of the committee favored the sale of SRI with a restrictive covenant which would prohibit for a period of 20 to 25 years certain war-related research. Another recommendation was that a student-faculty committee be set up to decide on the moral acceptability of SRI projects. In all, ten of the twelve members recommended that the University exercise control over SRI's research.

THE CHAIRMAN: Let me ask you what the seven voted for

there, the sale or restriction?

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