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formal injunction document, the final judgment, local 266 come into the picture, of the Teamsters Union.

In other words, the attorney for local 19 in that particular case, the next day announced that he became an attorney for a new association known as the United Game Operators, I believe, and that association immediately entered into a contract with local 266 of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.

So no sooner do we get an injunction against one union than another union starts picketing.

Senator KENNEDY. What is your suggestion for that?

Mr. MEZANSKY. Well, I do think that a very comprehensive labor law which would require registration of these unions as corporationsI don't think unions are being picked on when there is such a requirement. I mean, corporations are subjected to registration, or you can serve the secretary of state.

There should be a report on the officers, complete reports as to the whole union setup and the membership file, and so forth.

Senator KENNEDY. In conclusion, it seems to me that with the evidence that has been given as to the organization of this union, and the fact that there were self-employed people in it, other people who were not even aware of it, that they were not receiving any benefits or paying any dues, that it was sort of a sticker-sale business, with the picket line to put force behind the sale, I would think that the courts would give some protection.

But I agree that that is probably not sufficient. It would seem to me in these cases of intrastate commerce, as in the case in New York, I am sure that the people in New York are watching these hearings and are going to be concerned about the misuse of the picket lines as we are down here.

The CHAIRMAN. Do you think unions that engage in such practices should be entitled to tax-exempt privileges ?

Mr. MEZANSKY. No; of course not.
The CHAIRMAN. Neither do I.
All right; call the next witness.
Thank you very much.
Mr. KENNEDY. Lt. James Mooney.

The CHAIRMAN. Lieutenant Mooney, you do solemnly swear the evidence you shall give before this Senate select committee shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Lieutenant MOONEY. I do.

TESTIMONY OF LIEUTENANT JAMES S. MOONEY The CHAIRMAN. State your name, your place of residence, and your business or occupation, please, sir.

Lieutenant MOONEY. My name is James S. Mooney. I am a lieutenant in the New York City Police Department, assigned to the criminal intelligence squad.

The CHAIRMAN. How long have you been a member of the police department?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Thirteen years.
The CHAIRMAN. How long have been a member of this squad?
Lieutenant MOONEY. Criminal intelligence squad? A year and a

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The CHAIRMAN. All right.
Proceed, Mr. Kennedy.

Mr. KENNEDY. For a period of time you have been assigned to help and assist this committee; is that correct?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. KENNEDY. For how long have you been with us?
Lieutenant MOONEY. Since last May.

Mr. KENNEDY. And you had three other members of the New York Police Department with you?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir. I have three detectives with me.

Mr. KENNEDY. As you know, Mr. Chairman, that was through Police Commissioner Kennedy, who allowed these four police officers to come to work with the committee during this period of time.

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. Lieutenant, you have some information, do you not, in connection with the situation that occurred at Apalachin, N.Y., November of 1957?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, I do.

Mr. KENNEDY. And that is directly involved, is it not, with the hearings we are conducting at the present time!

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. And directly involves an individual who has been mentioned in the previous testimony, Mr. Carmine Lombardozzi. Lieutenant, do

you have a statement that you can read in connection with that?

Lieutenant MOONEY. I have, Mr. Kennedy.
Mr. KENNEDY. In connection with the meeting at Apalachin?
Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes; I have.
Mr. KENNEDY. Can he go ahead with that, Mr. Chairman?
The CHAIRMAN. The statement was submitted ?

Mr. KENNEDY. Yes. It is just a statement as to the factual information that has been developed in connection with the meeting at Apalachin.

The CHAIRMAN. All right. You may proceed to read the statement.

Lieutenant MOONEY (reading): The New York City Police Department is in possession of some information concerning the meeting of the notorious individuals who gathered at the home of Joseph Barbara at Apalachin, N.Y., on November 14, 1957.

The information indicates that the following took place: One of those individuals influential in the jukebox field was called to account for his activity. This person was previously scheduled to be killed, but instead his situation was considered by a council made up of certain of the higher ranking individuals present at Apalachin.

The offender was not allowed to be present or to participate in the hearing, but was required to remain in Barbara's garage to await the verdict. The council decided to fine the offender $10,000. Our present information indicates that the offender was Carmine Lombardozzi.

Mr. KENNEDY. This is information, Lieutenant, that comes from a very reliable source!

Lieutenant MOONEY. From a confidential source; yes.
Mr. KENNEDY. And a reliable source?
Lieutenant MOONEY, Reliable, too.

Mr. KENNEDY. Will you give us the background of Mr. Carmine Lombardozzi, and any information that you have on him?

Lieutenant MOONEY (reading):

Carmine Lombardozzi, with aliases of Alberto Lombardozzi, Carmine Lavigna, Al and Blackie, is known to the New York City Police Department under "B" No. 82584, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation No. 290869. He is 45 years old. He was born on February 18, 1913. He presently resides at 114 Stratford Road, Brooklyn, N.Y.

His criminal record shows 21 arrests, including vehicle homicide, disorderly conduct, dangerous weapon, with a pool cue, bookmaking, vagrancy, and being AWOL from the U.S. Army. He was convicted 13 times, twice for disorderly conduct, four times for bookmaking, once for being a common gambler; a charge of rape and abduction, which was reduced to disorderly conduct; and a charge of burglary, which was reduced to unlawful entry.

The files of the New York City Police Department show that he was a bookmaker and loan shark until 1952, at which time he assumed the greater dominance in the underworld, continuing his activity, however, as a money lender or shylock.

His legitimate employment since 1929 has been as a laborer, mechanic, longshoreman, stevedore, a builder and contractor. His known associates include Albert and Anthony Anastasia, Mike Miranda, and Paul Castellano, who were both present at Apalachin; Gus Frasca ; Sabato Muro, also known as Little Mitsky; and George Smurra.

Mr. KENNEDY. Spell those names. C-a-s-t-e-l-l-a-n-o?
Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes.
Mr. KENNEDY, Gus Frasca?
Lieutenant MOONEY. F-r-a-s-c-a.
Mr. KENNEDY. Sabato?
Lieutenant MOONEY. M-u-r-0.
Mr. KENNEDY. George?
Lieutenant MOONEY. S-m-u-r-r-a.
Mr. KENNEDY. Who are they?

Lieutenant MOONEY. They are all known criminals in the city of New York,

Mr. KENNEDY. Go ahead. Lieutenant MOONEY (reading): Lombardozzi attended the Apalachin meeting on November 14, 1957, and he traveled to Joseph Barbara's home with Natale Evola, Joseph Riccobono, and Frank Cucchiara. He stayed overnight with them at the Dell Motel. When questioned by the New York City Police Department, Lombardozzi stated that he is the president of the Superior Tube Corp., in Brooklyn, N.Y., which company tests television tubes. He owns the Mec Platers in New York City, which plates brass and copper, and Sabato Muro is the president of this firm.

He is also interested in the Monti Marine Corp., which does ship repairing. Lombardozzi stated at the time of the interview that he promotes good will for the company with shipowners, labor unions, and personnel.

Mr. KENNEDY. Did he state also that he does some public relations and labor relations work for some ship company?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, he did.
Mr. KENNEDY. Continue, please.

Lieutenant MOONEY. He also stated that he owns an interest in the Mobile Marine Power & Equipment Co., which owns one piece of equipment which is a portable generator, and leases it to Monti Marine for $750 a week.

Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. Chairman, that is of some significance, obviously. He not only owns or has owned a small percentage of Monti Marine, but Monti Marine in turn does much of the work on the large ships that come into the New York City area.

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, it does.

Mr. KENNEDY. He owns the Mobile Marine Power & Equipment Co., which has one piece of equipment; is that right?

Lieutenant MOONEY. One generator.

Mr. KENNEDY. And that generator is used by the Monti Marine Co., and he is paid how much for the use of that generator?

Lieutenant MOONEY. He is paid $750 per week.

Mr. KENNEDY. The only thing that that company provides is the use of one generator; is that correct?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. And he has described himself as an individual who settles labor difficulties for some of the ship companies ?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes; he does.

Mr. KENNEDY. And also for doing any public relations work that might be necessary for some of the ship companies with whom Monti Marine has a contract?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir. Mr. KENNEDY. Would you explain a little bit the kind of work that Monti Marine does?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Monti Marine, when a ship is pulled into the yards in Brooklyn or in Manhattan, they will go aboard and they will scrape it down, clean it up, and this piece of equipment that Lombardozzi has, he rents to this Monti Marine Corp.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the value of that piece of equipment ?

Lieutenant Mooney. I believe, Senator, it was bought originally for $10,000.

The CHAIRMAN. $10,000. What is the cost of operating it? I mean, who pays the cost of operating it? Is this just rent for it and then the person who rents it, or the corporation who rents it, pays the cost of operation, or does the $750 per week include the cost of operating?

Lieutenant MOONEY. When he made this statement to the police department, he said that he realized $750 per week out of it.

The CHAIRMAN. Out of a $10,000 piece of equipment, he gets $750 per week?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. What are the other considerations involved; do you know?

Lieutenant MOONEY. I think it is promoting good will with labor unions.

The CHAIRMAN. Promoting good will means, “If you get along with us you won't get your head crushed in"!

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that what it means?
Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the kind of good will you are talking about?
Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir,

The CHAIRMAN. Protection. Protection from injury and damage to property.

Lieutenant MOONEY. “We will get the men to work.”
The CHAIRMAN. Very well. Proceed.

First, I would like to ask you one question before we get entirely away from it. You say this Lombardozzi was fined $10,000 instead of being ordered killed ?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. That was up at the Apalachin meeting?
Lieutenant MOONEY. That is the information we have.

The CHAIRMAN. Where does this $10,000 fine go? Who gets that money! He was fined $10,000, you said. Who fined him and where did the money go?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Senator, I believe if we knew that answer we would have the whole story at Apalachin, which we don't.

The CHAIRMAN. That is the mystery about it!
Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Presumably it goes into some central fund that is controlled by the higher-ups in the underworld?

Lieutenant MOONEY. I believe it does. Mr. KENNEDY. We understand, do we not, that Mr. Lombardozzi does not work directly for Monti Marine since 1957 or early 1958?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. That his connections with Monti Marine have been ended. We also have the information which was supplied to us by the Grace Lines that they had loaned Monti Marine some $400,000 at the time Monti Marine was in some difficulty?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir. Mr. KENNEDY. And all but some $108,000 of that has been repaid ? Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir. Mr. KENNEDY. What else do we know about Mr. Lombardozzi? Lieutenant MOONEY (reading): Lombardozzi also stated he had an interest in a factoring company which loaned money to other companies and when Monti Marine secured a contract for work on the carrier Saratoga, this factoring company loaned money to subcontractors doing work on the carrier.

He has been a familiar figure on the New York waterfront for years, having been a hiring boss at the Army pier in Brooklyn when Albert Anastasia controlled it. During a maintenance strike on the waterfront, Lombardozzi is reported to have joined Buster Bell, who is a leader of a New York maintenance local, Joe Colazzo, who is the leader of a Brooklyn maintenance local, and Anthony "Tough Tony" Anastasia, in settlement of the strike.

It is not known who Lombardozzi represented at this meeting.
Mr. KENNEDY. That strike was settled?
Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. KENNEDY. What date was that?

Lieutenant MOONEY. I don't have the exact date, Mr. Kennedy, with me.

Mr. KENNEDY. Was it 1955?
Lieutenant MOONEY. 1955, I believe.
Mr. KENNEDY. And it was a major problem at that time, the strike?
Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. KENNEDY. And this meeting, this group that got together, was
able to settle the strike?

Lieutenant MOONEY. They settled it.
Mr. KENNEDY. And Mr. Lombardozzi attended the meeting?

Lieutenant MOONEY. Yes, sir; and that is the mystery of why he was there. Nobody knows. Then on November 10, 1958, Lombardozzi, with seven others, agreed to accept a New York Supreme Court injunction barring them from stock trading in New York.

New York Attorney General Louis Lefkowitz stated that underworld elements had attempted to infiltrate the security businesses when that injunction was handed down.

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