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of the same date, conferred the situation resolution ought not to be agreed to, until on Colonel Bryce.
that to which he had alluded was read, The Chairman moved " That the in order to shew, that the Company were court do approve of the resolution of the anxious to preserve the interests and procourt of directors of the 28th of August tect the rights of those who were bred up 1816."
in their service from an early period of The hon. W.F. Elphinstone begged to life, and that they would not suffer them obserre, in anticipation of any observa to be rooted out, on account of any undue tion which might be made on this motion, preference. that the salary was by far too small, it The resolution and amendment were was by no means commensurate with the then read by the clerk as follow :extent of the service which the military “ At a general cuurt of proprietors, assistant was called on to perform.-- held on Friday, the 7th of April 1809, (Hear ! hear !) The gentleman who filled it was moved : the situation acquired a most excellent " That this court do confirm the resocharacter abroad, and he has conducted lution of the general court, of the 29th himself much to the benefit and satisfac of March last, approving of the appoint. tion of the Company at home.-Clear ! ment of two assistauts in the military hear!)
department, with a salary of £300 a The Chairman-" From the situation year.” To which the following amendI had the honour of holding in the last, ment was proposed.
" That this court, and that which I fill in the present year, relying on the discretion of the court of it is more peculiarly in my power to speak directors, and being fully sensible of the of tire merits and services of this gentle. weight of the observations contained in man; and I must, in justice, mention the report from the military secretary, him in terms of the highest approbation, recommending that two assistant secretaas a diligent servant of the Company, and ries be appointed in the auditor's office; one who is extremely useful in his situa agree in the said recommendation. But tion." "-(Hear ! hear :)
this court desires also to express its Mr. Hume did not rise to object to the anxiety to coutinue the protection of the situation itself, nor to the appointment East India Company to those who have of Colonel Byrce, whom he believed to perfornued long and meritorious services : be a very able man. But he wished the and the court also desire to state, that, court to look a little farther than the if the executive body find it necessary to appointment of that particular in lividual. áppoint to those situation's persons not Those who were not aware of the situa- regularly bred in this house, such proceedtion in which the court was placed, ing shall not be drawn into a precedent would be good enough to refer to the hereafter.” resolution of the 29th of March 1809, Mr. Hime continued.--He had request. and the amendment proposed thereto. On ed that this should be read, in order to that day, an innovation on the rules of shew to those now in the Company's serthe Company's establishment was made, vice, that the court was altvays most by the appointment of individuals to anxious to guard against any proceeding situations in that house, which they had which appeared to be opposed to their not been regularly reared, within those interests, or to niilitate against their just walls, to fill. Those individuals, who claims. He called on the proprietors to were not brought up iu the line of ser recollect the solemn pledge that was here vice to which they were appointed, were given. It was the first court that he atcalled on to do duties which had pre tended after his return to this country, viously been performed by men regularly and he was much gratified when he saw educated in the Company's service for the proprietors unanimously agreeing to that purpose. An hon. director (Mr. the proposition. He felt, at the time, Grant) whom he then saw ju his place, most strongly, the reasons stated in the and who filled'the chair at the time, coin report on which the resolution of the cided in the amendment then proposed, court of directors was founded, and he in order to prevent this deviation from admitted also the justice of the observatheir ordinary rules being drawn into tions made upon that occasion by an precedent, and the court unanimously hon. director, to whom he had before agreed to the resolution, as amended, to alluded. That hon. director stated, that prevent the farther encouragement of a the increase of the Company's military system, from which much mischief was affairs abroad, and the immediate necesto be apprehended. He did not think sity which existed, in consequence, for that the highly-qualified individual, who additional assistants in the military dewas brought forward on this occasion, partment, compelled the executive body would be, in any degree, the means of to noininate persons not reared in the producing the mischief that was dreaded, house. But he (Mr. Hume) understood, so far as he was personally concerned. that this was to be the first and last deviaBut, he was of opinion, that the present tion from the established rule. It was
said, in extenuation of it, that there gentleman who had been introduced, being no person in the house capable of with a salary of £600 a-year, to the office going through the details of the military of the Examiner of Indian correspondence. auditor's duties, and the business pres His salary had since been raised to £1200 sing heavily on Mr. Wright, it was neces per ann.; and by the death of one of the sary to look elsewhere for individuals oldest and ablest servants the Company suitably qualified for the situation. When ever bad (Mr. Hudson), a vacancy took this statement was made, it was sug place, and that individual, who, it was gested, (to prevent the occurrence of such never coutemplated would have so suddena circumstance again), that gentlemen ly been exalted, was called to the situashould be trained up, who might succeed tion. They could not now prevent him to any vacancy that might happen to take from ultimately holdiug one of the highest place, in the event of the deatlı or resig- ofiices in the house, though he had not nation of any of the individuals then ap been educated in it. The great mischief pointed, instead of having no person ju was, the pot having a number of persons the office calculated to enter on the per in training, ready to take different imporformance of the duties attached to it. He tant situations, in succession, instead of was sorry to say, that, as far as he could being compelled to promote those who learn, this had not been done. He un had been but a short time in the Comderstood there was not any gentleman in pany's service. The death or resignation this office, who, by experience and obser of any of the gentlemen who filled situavation, would be able to proceed with the tions of the most vital importance to the business transacted by Col. Bryce, if there Company, placed them, in consequence were a necessity for it. If that gentleman of this neglect, in a very awkward prediresigued tomorrow, there would be a cament: it compelled them to look out fresh vecessity for introducing another of doors for succession. The death or reperson to the situation, who liad not been signation of the military secretary, as regularly trained up to the discharge of they were vow situated, would place them its duties. He did not object to the ap- in those disagreeablecircumstances, which pointment of Col. Bryce; but he objected they ought to endeavour to avoid. Were strongly to the manner in which it had either of these events to take place, they taken place, and to the want of foresight' had no person in the house ready to fill that gave rise to it. The Company had the situation. But, by pursuing the now four departments connected with course he recommended, they would altheir military system : those of Mr. ways be prepared with efficient persons. Wright, Colonel Salmon, Colonel Bryce, Men possessed of ordivary abilities, but and Mr. Addison ; for each of these gen- subjected to a regular and progressive tlemen had distinct duties to perform. training, would be able to go through a Now, he conceived, that if, for instance, greater portion of business, than persons Colonel Salmon's business became so bur who. boasted of more splendid talents densome as to require an assistant, that a could perform. He doubted extremely, gentleman should be placed under Col. Sal whether it was necessary that Colonel mon, and should perform his duties under Bryce should act separately from Colonel the eye of his principal in the office : he Salmon and Mr. Wright. Appointing him would thus be ready, by daily intercourse to a separate department, with a salary with Col. Salmon, to step in his place, of £300 a-year, appeared to him (Mr. if a vacancy occurred. This would reuder Hume) to be an insult. Either he had to it quite unnecessary to seek out of the perform a duty worth an infinitely house for efficient persons. He did not, greater reward, or the business which he by any means, like the system of forming had to execute was of a trivial nature, new offices. When this was done, it al and ought to become a minor department ways appeared to him, that they were in the office of Colonel Salmon or Mr. going to turn out an old servant. In the Wright. But, in his opinion, a little time present instance, a new office being formed, would show, that though Colonel Bryce Colonel Bryce must be considered as placed was ostensibly an assistant to Mr. Wright, at once at the head of a department ; a yet that he had, in fact, an office completething which was evidently not only not in- ly separate and distinct from that gentletended, but not thought of, when the first It was merely a name, he believed, innovation took place. He doubted very and nothing more. He considered that an much whether the affairs of the Company auditor-general for India had more to do would be so well managed now they were than any human being could perform perplaced in so many different hands, as they fectly; therefore he would remove every used to be, when they were transacted by thing that prevented an individual froin a few. In confirmation of what he said, performing the duties of that office in the on the subject of old servants being some best manner, and he would afford him times thrown into the back-ground, in every possible assistance. The question consequence of the introduction of new then was, whether the making Colonel ones, he begged to refer to the case of a Bryce's situation a complete and distinct
department from Mr. Wright's office, is the appointment, states, that it shall be the proper and effectual way of granting made so as not to interfere with the reguassistance ? This he would say, that lar succession in the auditor's office. This where they had military servants to pro comports, in every degree, with the resovide for, they ought to be placed in that lution of 1809, which has been quoted. line in which their house servants could Another point it is also necessary to refer not come into competition with, or be ef to. Mr. Baker was snatched away by the fected by them. He objected greatly to hand of heaven. He was next iu succesColonel Bryce's appointment being made sion to Mr. Wright, which rendered it a separate one, and he would submit to still more necessary to look for some perthe executive body, whether it would not son capable of succceding him. It is said, be much better to have two gentlemen in that Colonel Bryce is not allowed enough. one office; one having under his superio- For my own part, I conceived that he tendance the foreign, and the other the ought to bave a larger salary ; but the European branch of military affairs ? answer was, it his services really demand Having a daily intercourse with each other, more, the Company will be very glad to they would both have a perfect knowledge grant an increased allowance.” of the business to be transacted ; and, in Mr. S. Dixon understood, ibat, in 1809, case of the death or resignation of one, a motion was made, appointing some new there would be no difficulty in procuring a oficers, and to that an amendment was
He wished the court of direc- proposed, expressire ofthe reliance of the tors to attend seriously to what he said on court on the good sense of the directors this subject, for every account from In of that clay, not to deviate, without just dia complained of the unavoidable delay cause, from an established rule. Now, (unavoidable under the existing system) after hearing all that had been said on this which marked their correspondence. It subject, he felt the most perfect reliance was impossible for the correspondence to on the propriety of the conduct pursued be correctly attended to without proper by the court of directors in the case now assistance, and they all knew that delay before them. The auditor-general report. produced the most mischievous conse ed that he wanted asssistance. The exequences. It created trouble, it engender- cutive body turned round, and found a ed discontent and dissatisfaction. Major mau who had served the Company for a Keeble's case, which was before them considerable period, in anothier line, and now, was occasioned by delay. His pro who also came extremely well recommotion had been retarded by it. There mended. They appointed him to the siwas another individual, whose rank hai tuation, no other person presenting himbeen superseded from the same cause, seif who was qualified to fill it. The but he believed it had been restored to court of directors could not, he conceivhim. If the regulations adopted on this ed, under these circumstances, liave acted subject, in 1796, were not attended to, more wisely or fairly than they did. their officers had no settled point to look Mr. Rigby had only to say, with refeto. After five or six years efforts, Colo rence to the question pow before the nel Macgregor's business was adjusteil; court, that it was admitted on all hands, but, in consequence of the delay, he did even by the hon. proprietor near lim (Mr. not now possess the rank which he ought Hume) that a necessity existed for grantto hold. If Colonel Bryce be (and he be- iug allditional assistance in the military lieved he was) that able and intelligent department, and that the directors, in the officer whose services would be useful to esercise of a sound discretion, had selectthe Company, he ought to be placed in ed this gentleman, he had not the smallthat department, where he might fairly est doubt. But it struck him, that the look forward to the succession as the re salary was infinitely inadequate, when comward of his exertions. It would be much pareil with the esient of those civil and better to do this, than to have the busi- military duties which he was called to ness transacted in different offices. By perform. Such were the observations that this means, if an individual wanted infor- occurred to him on this occasion. It cer: mation, he would know where to look tainly appeared that the nomination of for it at once, instead of being perhaps Colonel Bryce was an exception to the geobliged to visit, one after the other, the neral rule, which the Company, in all offices of Mr. Wright, Colonel Salmon, practical cases, were anxious to follow; and Mr. Bryce, before he could attain his but circumstances might occur which object. In his opinion this appointment, would render a deviation from that rule which was in violation of the resolution necessary and praiseworthy. He approvof 1809, would not do the Company any ed of the resolution which the hon. credit or service whatever.
proprietor had caused to be read; and, Mr. Reid."I think the hon. proprie- if he had any thing to suggest to the court tor has not adverted to the express con of directors, it would be this, whether it dition on which this appointment has would not be a very serviceable thing for been made. The report, recommending the Company, if the hou. proprietor were
appointed joint auditor-general ?-14 vumber of cadets and assistant-surgeons laugh!)
was stated, and it appeared to me to be The Deputy-Chairman.-" The hon, entirely too small. I confess, for one, proprietor (Mr. Hume) has stood forward though I am unwilling to increase the exas the champion of the servants of this penses of the Company, that I wish a house, and beg to state my gratitude to much larger number to be sent out to him for his good intentions. But I must India. take leave to inform the hon. proprietor, [Here the hon. proprietor stated some that the servants of this house have four
very strong observations on this subject, and-twenty champions behind this bar, very proper, doubtless, for the contemwho are jealous of their rights, and who plation of the court of directors, but as anxiously oppose any thing that can at
one of the greatest political delicacy not tack their interests.-(Hear! hear !) And
necessary for general publication, he then it is only when those abilities are sought resumed.] for, which they cannot find in the house,
" I therefore do submit, that it is a that the rule alluded to by the hon. pro
matter of the utmost importance to the prietor is departed from. The hon. pro. prosperity of this country, to the security prietor has touched on the appointment of our empire abroad, and to the well-beof the gentleman, whose name is now im
ing of our interests at home, that this mediately before the court; and I am
subject should undergo the most prompt happy to find, from what has fallen from
and serious decision. the two gentlemen who followed him, that
[Here the hon. proprietor made further they approve of that particular appoint
observations.] ment, and that they place perfect confi
Mr. S. Dixon.-" I speak to order. I dence in the good sense and integrity of ask, if this statement be well-founded, the executive body, for exercising the discretionary power vested in them. It will, tigation ?"
is it the proper place and time for invesI am sure, be sufficient to exculpate them
Mr. Hume.—“ I am extremely anxious from blame, when they declare, upon their
to state my opinion on this subject, behonour, as men and as directors, that, when they sought for individuals out of the bar, which probably prevents gentle
cause there is a degree of delicacy within doors, to fill particular offices, it was only
men from acting as they would do, were because they could not procure the neces
they differently situated. If they made a sary ability within. This, I hope, will be found suficiently satisfactory.”—(Hear! he said, that they only looked for au ex
proposition of this kind, perhaps it would hear !) The resolution was then unanimously
tension of patronage ; and, therefore, any
increase of our establishment, called for carried.
by them, might be cavilled at in this FUND FOR THE HOME ESTABLISH court." MENT.
[The hon. proprietor concluded by
again recommending his measure in the The Chairman.-" I beg leave to ac
most energetic language.] quaint the court, that the plan for a fund
The Chairman.-" I am sure the good for the officers and servants of the home establishment not being completed, the
sense of the court will lead them to think, directors have come to a resolution, not
that it would be very improper to enter to make any statement on the subject, till
into details on such a subject : but it may certain sources of supply have been exa
be stated and relied upon that our court, mined, and the whole, when in a matured
as the executive ministers of your affairs, state, will be submitted to the general
are perfectly alive to the interests of In
dia; and, in another place, those with « On account of the intervention of
whom it is necessary we should enter into the holidays, a difficulty exists, with re
discussions on this subject, are equally spect to holding a second court in a fort
alive to its importance."— (Hear ! hear !) night ; I shall therefore propose, that
The court then adjourned to the 7th of on this day three weeks, the 7th of Jan.
January a court be convened, for the purpose of confirming the resolutions approved of this
East-India House, Jan. 7, 1818. day."
A general court of proprietors of East
India stock was this day held at the ComINDIAN ARMY.
pany's house in Leadenhall-street, for Mr. Hume. Before the court ad the purpose of confirming the resolutious of journs, I feel it to be my duty to make the general court of the 17th ult. approvone or two observations on a subject of the ing of certain resolutions of the court of greatest interest to the Company and the directors, agreed to at different periods, empire at large. The state of our army and granting to various individuals, penabroad is one of the utmost importance in sions, partly derived from the Company's every point of view. A few days ago, the cash, and partly from the fee-fund.
'The routine business having been gone
bled the court, because he was in expecthrough.
tation that some answer would have been The Chairman (John Bebb, Esq.) mov given, by the gentlemen behind the bar, ed, “That the court do confirm the reso to the remarks offered by his hon. friend, lution of the general court, of the 17th with respect to those grants. On two ult., approving of the resolutions of the former occasions, he (Mr. Hume) had court of directors, of the 3d of April pressed this point on the attention of the 1807, granting to Mr. George Dominicus, court, and he felt extremely unwilling to late Company's ship husband, a pension come forward in any thirg like an officious of £650, £150 from the Company's cash, manner. At the time when he first inand £500 from the fee-fund.'
troduced the subject of granting moncy The Deputy-Chairman (John Patti from the fee-fund, without the consent of son, Esq.) secouded the motion.
the proprietors, to the notice of the court, Humphrey Howorth, Esq. M. P. rose he thought it was not necessary to apply to and said, that not having been in the their counsel for his opinion on the matcourt at the last meeting, he would take ter, since it manifestly appeared to be the present opportunity to make a few illegal. The making any grant above observations on the matters connected £600 was illegal ; and if the court of diwith the grants then introduced to their rectors acceded to it without informing notice, and which they were now called on the proprietors, they were, in his opinion, to legalize. With respect to the system liable to all the couseqnences which reof exacting fees, he most highly disap- sulted from an infraction of the law. Such proved of it. No defence, save its anti a grant, though not to an individual, was, quity, which was undoubtedly acknow. it appeared, contemplated. Now, he ledged, could be offered for it; but the felt, that the acceding to such a grant, long existence of an evil was but a poor without laying it before the proprietors, argument in support of its perpetuation. was, in the first instance, illegal ; and He knew not whether the author of the next it struck him that the omission threw Beggar's Opera, in writing any part of ou the proprietors a species of insult, that celebrated work, had an eye to the although he did not suppose it was intendaffairs of the Company, but certainly one of ed by the directors. The conduct of the his songs applied most pertinently to that executive body, in withholding the inforpart of their system which admitted fees mation from the court of proprietors, to be received for the performance of par- seemed to imply a doubt, whether the latticular duties. In an admirable strain of ter would or would not sanction their prosatire, that author said (and he appeared position. If, however, the directors did to speak almost prophetically of the course not think it proper to submit a grant of pursued by the Company.)
this kind, intended 'for a charitable pur
pose, to the proprietors, he, as a member “ If you at an office solicit your due,
of that court, would feel it to be his duty And would not have matters neglected,
to call the attention of the committee of You must quicken the clerk with the per- by-laws to this question. With respect quisite too,
to the antiquity of the fee-system, that To do what his duty directed.”
circumstance did not afford a justification This, Mr. Howorth observed, was a just of it. Many of the fees they were in the and complete sarcasm on what daily took habit of collecting were in themselves bad; place, through a custom which was no and although he would spare them from the less unfair than it was impolitic. With application of the lines quoted by his hon. respect to the grant proposed to be made friend from the Beggar's Opera, this he to the fund for the relief of the widows would say, that the taking of fees did and children of servants connected with prevent men from making those exertions, the house, he could not see why any dis- without additional reward, which they tinction should be made between the were bound to do when they accepted of sources from which the money was to be any office. The fees were not now given derived for the payment of the same peri to any individual certainly, but that did sion. As the fee-fund was now recoguiz not cure the evil. And he sincerely hoped, ed, he conceived that both sums might be that every thing which tended to clog and taken from it. And of this he was well load their commercial transactions, pubassured, that if the widows' fund was lic or private, would, ere long, be comproperly supported and administered, the pletely removed. Company would not only receive the thanks The Chairman said, he should not enand blessings of the individuals relieved, ter on the question which had been intrubut they would also derive benefits, as far duced, namely, whether the directors were as their real interests were concerned, of warranted or not, iu appropriating sums the most important nature, from it. of money to objects of the nature that (Hear ! hear !)
had been alluded to. But he would put Mr. Hume (after a short pause) said, it to the good sense of the court to say, he did not mean, originally, to have trou- whether, on occasions which required