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ed, it was easier to state principles and notice of the court. He guarded himself suggest improvements on those points, against sanctioning the supposition, that than to understand all the details connect the individual appointed in the examiner's ed with them.

office had found his way thither by the The hou, director hoped he should be undue influence of any man

or set of permitted :o say a word or two on another men. But acting on public principle, point which the hon. proprietor had ad and on that he would stand, he must verted to. Iu introducing it the hon. pro. hold, that if the directors once opened prietor was certainly out of order, and the door, they would receive many apperhaps on another occasion he would plications for employment, which they not have done so. He alluded to the pro.

might not know how easily to evade, from position for setting aside a portion of their persons who were unwilling to undergo patronage for a particular object. The the drudgery of a regular initiation into subject was of more magnitude than the their service, in that house. If he were hon. proprietor seemed to be aware of. If asked, where is the man, within those they adopted the principle of regularly in walls, that could undertake the employtroducing the descendants of their military ment in question ? he would say that such officers to the service, it became a matter of one was undoubtedly to be found chance whom they provided for, since the amongst those who attended the commitright of discrimination would be taken tee of correspondence. When they confrom them. And why should they not sidered that all their civil and military give appointments to the children of their correspondence must be submitted to the civil as well as of their military servants ? inspection of the individual now introIn that case, the whole patronage would duced to their service, when they reflectbe devoted to the civil and military ser ed on the great importance of that corvants of the Company, all other parties respondience, and recollected that confiwould be excluded : a proposition which dence might or might not be abused, he even the hon. gentleman himself would conceived they must see the necessity of not be hardy enough to support. He (Mr. acting with 'extreme caution. Of the Grant) contended that it would at ìeast gentleman who had been mentioned he be a very unwise principle to introduce, knew nothing. He was probably fit to for the moment those rewards were made fill any situation he might be called to,

and hereditary they would be considered in a as a body, he would do the directors the very different point of view from what they justice to believe that they would not were at present, when it was known that select an improper person for any office; they could only secured by merit. On but as the subject had been touched on, this ground he would oppose any propo

he begged leave to express an hope, that position of the kind alluded to. Because the executive body, in a matter of such individuals were in their service, they great importance, would have a most certainly ought not to be excluded from watchful regard to introductions of this benefits of this description; but, on the sort, lest they might lead to mischief. other hand, he could not admit that cir Mr. Hume requested to offer one word, cumstance as any practical recommenda- by way of explanation. He believed the tion. When gentlemen came forward to

hon, director had misunderstood him, for state the merits of individuals, who had he was sure he would not willingly mis. been twenty, thirty, or forty years in represent him. He (Mr. H.) neither asthe service, and who had many children, serted, nor wisbed to express an opinion, he was ready to admit their merits, and that the patronage should be given altoto applaud them; but still he must ob- gether to their servants, nor did he serve that the service of the Company was state that any part of it should be bein itself a boon, and in granting it they stowed indiscriminately. He merely had been conferring on those persons a

meant to say, that, from the great exbenfit from the very beginning. The Com tension of military patronage which was pany had done them and their families a about to take place, such a portion should very great service, and he did not think be set aside, as would enable the directhey were afterwards bound to take care tors to meet the strong and honourable of their descenciants. On private and claims of some of the Company's officers. public feelings he would oppose such an He acknowledged himself hostile to the innovation, calculated as it was, to pro- principle laid down by the hon. director duce inconceivable mischief. With les that length of service ought not to be conpect to the appointment in the examiner's sidered as the foundation for a claim. He office, if it were brought forward in a would contend, that if an officer had more tanzible shape, in the form of a served thirty or forty years, with honour proposition, every information would be to himself and benefit to the Company, given relative to it.

he had a claim, and a powerful claim, on Mr. Howorth pledged himself to bring their kindness. the subject of introducing persons not

The resolution was then agreed to, and regularly educated in the house to the the court adjourned.

Mr. D. Kinnaird should be sorry to inEast India House, March 18. terrupt the regular business of the court, A quarterly general court of proprie

but he wished to know whether he would tors of East-India stock was this day be allowed, when that business was gone held at the Company's House in Leaden- through, to make some observations on hall-street.

the topic noticed by his hon. friend ? The usual form having been gone

The Chairman-“ We can proceed to through

the regular business of the day, after The Chairman (John Bebb, Esq.) said

which it will be open to the hon. propriehe had to acquaint the court, that, in tor, or any other gentleman, to offer such conformity with the 4th sec, of the first remarks as he may think proper. I have chapter of by-laws, sundry papers that to acquaint the court, that there is now had been presented to parliament since laid before it, in conformity with section the last general court, were now laid be

19, chap. VI. of the by-laws, a list of alfore the proprietors.

lowances, in the nature of superannuaThe clerk read the titles of the docu tions, granted by the court of directors, ments. They were, first, copies of all

under the act of the 53d of Geo. III. cap. resolutions of the court of directors, and

155, sec. 93.” of all warrants or other instruments, for The list was read, and contained only granting any salary or pension-second,

the name of Mr. Robert Nuthall, late copies of regulations passed by the gover

transfer-accountant, £775 per annum. nor-general in council, in the year 1814,

MR. W. COOKE. No. 29, and in the year 1815, No. 1. to V.-third, copies of regulations pas The Chairman-"I beg leave to acsed by the governor and council of Bom quaint the court, that copies of advices bay, in the year 1815. No regulations received from the governor in council of had been received from the governor and Fort St. George, and of the proceedings council of Madras for the year 1816. which have been adopted in pursuance of

Mr. Hume wished, before the court the orders of the court of directors, reproceeded to business, to ask a question specting the case of Mr. William Cooke, relative to the regulations passed by their of the Madras civil establishment, are now goveruors abroad in 1814 and 1815, laid before the proprietors for their in-, which were laid before parliament. With formation. If it be the pleasure of the respect to the regulations themselves he court, the report, which is very short, meant to raise po objection; but he shall be read.” would ask, whether the act of parliament The clerk proceeded to read the docudid not call on the court of directors to ments, which were in substance as follay those regulations before parliament lows :annually ? and if that were the case, Copy of a letter from the Madras go. he demanded whether those who ought vernment, dated Fort St. George, June to transmit them had done their duty in ' 24, 1817, addressed to the court of di., furnishing the regulations passed in 1814, rectors. four years afterwards, in 1818? The act “ With reference to the information afsaid they should be laid before parliament forded in your general letter of the 26th annually, and he need not state that those of March, with respect to the investigaregulations were most important; that tion of Mr. William Cooke's conduct, we they were, in fact, every thing to India, have vow the pleasure to submit to you a so far as the administration of justice copy of the final report of the committee and the management of the Company's af- appointed to inquire into the facts of the fairs were concerned. The reason why case. We have caused the committee to they should be produced promptly was, be informed, that we are highly pleased that if any thing improper were contained with the sound judgment and strict im. in the regulations, the legislature of this partiality which they have displayed country should have an immediate oppor- throughout the investigation tunity of rectifying it. If the act of par cur in the opinion formed by them in liament were complied with, they would Mr. Cooke's favor, on the points that not surely see the regulations of 1814, were under consideration. We trust it and from No. 1. to No. 5, of those of will prove satisfactory to your honourable 1815, produced in the present year, when court; and hope you will approve of our the voyage from India only occupied four having recalled that gentleman to the peror five months. He submitted to the formance of the duties of his office, from court, that all the regulations of 1814, 15, which he had been removed pending the and 16, ought to have been received before investigation.” this. If nothing were done to accelerate The report was next read. It was dated the production of those important docu- the 15th of May, 1817, and was addresments, he should feel it to be his duty to sed to the right hon. H. Elliott, governor bring the subject specifically before the in council, Fort St. George. Its contents court.

were substantially these :

We con

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" We have the honour to state our opi “ The second point is, that in Mr. nion on the matters referred to in the dis Cooke's account, delivered on oath, he had patch from the court of directors, of the stated, that a bribe was offered to him to 7th of February, 1816, which tended to give up certain accounts relative to transbring the character of Mr. W. Cooke into actions, no such offer having been made. question. As the charges were not pre We are of opinion, that the account given ferred in the ordinary manner,

by Mr. Cooke, in his examination on oath, ported by evidence, and as no proof of his is true. The account given to the late culpability was adduced, it became ne advocate-general agrees with that of Mr. cessary for us to examine voluminous Cooke. It appears from the statement of bodies of papers, respecting the proceed- Sir Alexander Anstruther, and also from ings of Mr. Sherson and others. The the evidence given before us, that Mr. only mode by which we could obtain facts, Cooke stated the circumstance immediatein evidence, was by examining such perá ly after it occurred, and he then gave the

as appeared, from the perusal of same evidence that he afterwards did on those papers, to be connected with the his oath. If we had not received the opi. transactions in question, and who it was nion of the late advocate-gen., we should supposed would be able to give very im still have come to the same conclusion. portant information. After having clos. In framing a bill against him, that legal ed our examination of all the witnesses authority only acted on circumstances that before us, Mr. Cooke, who attended dur- appeared criminal, until they were exing the investigation, was informed, that plained, and was thrown aside perhaps we were prepared to receive any evidence for the same reason that induced Mr. he might think proper to bring forward, Cooke's superior to abandon any proceedand to attend to any thing he might offering. It might be here objected, that in his defence. Sir Alexander Anstru. Meeranour said, in his examination, ther, the Recorder of Bombay, was ap that he never had a conversation with Mr. plied to, at his request, to impart to us all Cooke relative to a bribe ; but the hesithe information he possessed on the sub- tation and reluctance with which he gave ject. This information having been re his evidence rendered it of very little ceived, Mr. Cooke addressed to us a let weight. ter, dated the 25th ult. which contains a " The third point was, that Mr. Cooke, defence of his conduct on the three points in answer to certain interrogatories, statin question, on each of which we shall ed, that he acted in direct hostility to Mr. now proceed to state our opinion, and the Sherson, and that he had a private reason reasons on which it is grounded.

for having him found guilty. In answerThe first point is an allegation of ing the interrogatory in question, Mr. Mr. Cooke's having been concerned in re Cooke appears to have been obliged to moving, forging, or altering certain do- adopt the words of the examiner. He cuments relative to transactions in the said he acted in direct hostility, but he graiu department.

In support of this did so with this explanatory statement, charge, there was no evidence, and it that he so acted solely for the purpose of had been completely disproved. The sus discovering fraud in the grain department. picion on this point seems to have arisen This did away entirely with the idea that from two circumstances ; namely, that he was influenced by private feeling. His the seals affixed to the chest, when placed statement, thus qualified, amounted to in the situation allotted to it, were not this, that having preferred charges which found on it when the examiniug com he believed to be well-founded, he felt a namittee performed their duty, and next, the tural desire to establish them. His obsercircumstance of the key being in Mr. vations on this point are very satisfactory, Cooke's possession. From the manner in and we call the notice of the government which the seals were affixed to the chest, particularly to them. On consideration they might easily be rubbed off by accis of the whole case, it appears that he had dent, during its removal ; and that they reason to suspect that frauds were comwere so knocked off by accident, appears mitted by the native servants in the grain to be the opinion of the committee. It department, and being impressed with that also appears probable, that the account in belief, he certainly had a right to exert question never was put into the chest, be- himself to find them out. Though he did cause, if it had been put there, it was not state his suspicions in an open mannot Mr. Cooke's interest to keep it back, ner to his superior, Mr. Sherson, it might but, on the contrary, it was material to be supposed that that omission arose from him that it should be produced. That his belief that Mr. Sherson was concerned the whole series of accounts found in the in the frauds which his servants were perchest were altered or forged, is a suppo- petrating, however improper the grounds sition altogether incredible. We consider of that belief were. The depositious on the observations made by Mr. Cooke on this occasion were not taken on oath, bethis point as extremely strong, and en cause we had no authority to administer tirely satisfactory.

one, and the advocate-general stated, that

government were not inclined to grant on the moment. Previous to the next such an authority ; but all the witnesses court we will procure every information declared that they were willing to swear on the subject, and we shall then be to the truth of what they had stated. ready to give the necessary explanation." Not having additional evidence, we are Mr. Hume said, the reason why he prevented from making our report so full asked this question was, because when as we could wish. The delay in producing the by-laws were last under the consideit has been occasioned by our being oblig- ration of the court, he proposed an ed to examine voluminous documents, and amendment to the second section of the by the reference we were compelled to first chapter, which had for its object, to make to Sir Alexander Anstruther, at extend the provisions of that by-law, Bombay. We beg leave to notice, with which now only referred to their comgreat satisfaction, the zeal and ability mercial accounts, to documents of a shewn by our secretary, Mr. Macleod, in political or legislative nature. By that the discharge of his various important section it was ordained" That the duties."

books of the Company's affairs in India Mr. D. Kinnaird inquired, whether it shall once every year be balanced in it was the intention of the court of direc- every of the said Company's factories, to tors to state to the proprietors any time the 30th of April in each year; and for taking this report into consideration ? transcripts, or copies thereof, signed by He had no wish himself on the subject; the chief civil servant of each factory, but he asked the question in consequence and those from the presidency by the acof having received an extraordinary letter, countant-general, shall be sent to Engin which he was called on to change his land, by the first opportunity following ; opinion. He did not know the individual and those persons whose duty it shall be whose name was signed to it, but certain. to make up the same, and who shall rely his letter began in a very curious man fuse or neglect so to do, shall become ner. The writer says, “ he knows the thereby liable to dismission from the papers are false, although he has not read Company's service ; and that those acthem."-(A laugh!) He only meant to counts, when preparer, shall be accord-, say, if the writer were present, that he ingly transmitted to England by the first was ready to proceed to an investigation safe conveyance.” He stated, at the time of the subject, whether it might tend to this law was before the court, that it was alter or confirm his present opinion. as essential to the advantage of those

The Chairman-" The executive body whom they governed, as it was produchave laid the papers before the proprietors tive of their own welfare, that those acts for their information, and it now rests of Parliament (for so be called the regu. with them to pursue whatsoever course lation) should be speedily transmitted to they please.”

this country, in order that they might

know how far their affairs were conductTRANSMISSION OF REGULATIONS.

ed for the benefit of their subjects at Mr. D. Kinnaird wished to ask, whe- large. They were strictly called a comther any snfficient reason could be given mercial Company, and by the law which for the delay in the transmission of regu he had quoted, any of their servants, lations made by their governors abroad, refusing or neglecting o make up, and which had been noticed by his hon. friend send home, the commercial accounts, (Mr. Hume). It was a matter of con were liable to dismission from iheir sersiderable importance, and he felt that vice. When that law was under consuch delays were most reprehensible. He sideration, he submitted that all papers meant to cast no imputation on the court and accounts should be subject to its opeof directors, for he had no doubt that ration. An hon, director then stated that tbey communicated those regulations as it was unnecessary, as he was sure there soon as they possibly could. He appre would be no delay, for the executive body hended the object of his lion. friend's would be most careful to see that all doquestion was, to learn whether the exe cuments were transmitted to this country cutive body were satisfied with such a as early as possible. This evidently had delay ? Whether they were content, that not been done. Now, it was a matter of in 1818, the regulations of 1814, and the gravest and most serious importance from No. 1 to 5, of those formed in for the court of directors, as judges and 1815, should be laid before parliament ? rulers of forty or fifty millions of people, He should like to have a direct answer to to have all new regulations promptly laid this question.

before them, in order that they might see The Chairman. We were not aware how these people were really governed. that questions of this kind were intended When they looked to the whole of the to be put to us, or we should have been proceedings before parliament, when they prepared to answer them. They relate to considered the matter contained in the maiters of detail, and are undoubtedly fifth report, when they rellected on the important, but we cannot answer them justice that was due to individuals in In

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dia, which was greatly affected by delay- The answer would then come before them he, for one, should declare it to be his in the manner in which it ought to proopinion, that those whose duty it was to ceed from the court of directors. transmit all regulations annually, had act Mr. Grant said, he was anxious, as ed reprehensibly, in not making their far as he could, to answer the questions communications more promptly. They of the hon. proprietor, with respect had now, in the fourth year after they to their commercial and political afwere passed, sent home the regulations of fairs. He felt more particularly desi. 1814, and a few of those of 1815, which rous to do so, lest any erroneous inwere formed three years ago. He consi, pression, hastily formed, should operate dered this to be a direct breach of duty, on the minds of the proprietors. Al and he had no hesitation in adding that though he agreed with the lei. geutlethe executive body were answerable for man, that there seemed to be a defect, that breach. They possessed authority with reference to the printed regulations, over every servant in India ; and, if their yet it did not at all follow, that the produties were not properly performed, it per authorities had not sent home all the arose from the executive body not exer- regulations which had been adopted. On cising their power as they ought to do. searching, lie believed it would be found, Was it not a shame, when their commer that all regulations and transactions of a cial affairs were so strietly attended to, commercial or political nature, which when a by-law was ordained, to enforce a were minuted at the time as having pasprompt transmission of their accornts, sed, had been transmitted, up to the latest that the whole state of their legislation period, to that house. The omission, should be thus neglected--that regula- therefore, was not theirs, but was attributions might be made, of which, for years, table to those who had not put the regu. the Company Inight be totally ignorant ? Jations into a printed form. He, howHe now begged to ask, whether the pro.' ver, firmly believed, that the information visions of the second section, chap. I. were alluded to by the hon. proprietor was in regularly complied with ? whether their that house, in manuscript. It was concommercial accounts had been transmit tained in the book of dispatches which ted in the manner, and at the period there had been sent home, and could easily be directed ? and whether the directors had procured ; but he admitted that the printexercised the authority there given to ed form was the most proper, to bring them, of threatening the dismission of those regulations before the proprietors those, if any such there were, who had and the public. Now, with respect to the neglected their duty ? He was extremely other point, which related

the separaanxious to see the state of their accounts, tion of the commercial from the political because he was satistied, from informa- department in India, he could affirm, that tion of the most authentic kind, that the the separation was very accurate and utmost rigid economy, the utmost re complete. It could not be said, that those trenchment was necessary, to prevent

to whom the duty was entrusted, did not their commerce from becoming not only discriminate between their commercial a losing, but a ruinous concern. He there and political affairs. Whether the books fore requested to know to what period of accounts had come home up to the lattheir commercial accounts, as ordered, est period, he could not affirni from mere had been made up and sent home? recollection ; but, if there should be any

The Chairman--"I can ouly repeat omission on that point, it was a very what I before said, if we were aware wholesome regulation, which enabled tlie that questions of this kind would be put, court of directors to compel the governwe should have prepared ourselves to an ments abroad to send them home with swer them ; but, by the next court, every greater expedition. In consequence, howinformation the hun. proprietor requires ever, of the separation of the commercial will be ready."

from the political department, an addiMr. Hume" By looking at the dis- tional duty devolved on those who were patches, the information I require would obliged to draw up the accounts ; aud if, be afforded in a minute. I have, on other heretofore, the accounts could not be occasions, knowo documents of that kind made up until a considerable time had to be sent out for, in order to elucidate a elapsed, beyond the period to which they point.”

purported to go, it was probable, that Mr. S. Dixon hoped that no farther now, in consequence of the alteration, observations would be made on this sub some additional delay might be occasionjeet. The importance of the question ed. Since the renewal of the charter was evident, and it required a well die they had not, perhaps, received the acgested answer. What the hon. Chairman counts so soon as might be desired; but said was, he thought, perfectly satisfac- certainly it must be the wish of the court tory. He stated that at the next court of directors to procure them as speedily they should have a proper explanation. as possible. Asiatic Journ, No. 28.

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