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MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AND FACILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE

PATRICIA SCHROEDER, Colorado, Chairwoman

G.V. (SONNY) MONTGOMERY, Mississippi DAVID O'B. MARTIN, New York
IKE SKELTON, Missouri

DAVE MCCURDY, Oklahoma

THOMAS M. FOGLIETTA, Pennsylvania
SOLOMON P. ORTIZ, Texas

TOMMY F. ROBINSON, Arkansas

JAMES H. BILBRAY, Nevada

NICHOLAS MAVROULES, Massachusetts
EARL HUTTO, Florida

WILLIAM L. DICKINSON, Alabama
BEN BLAZ, Guam

FLOYD SPENCE, South Carolina

ARTHUR RAVENEL, JR., South Carolina
JIM COURTER, New Jersey
JAMES V. HANSEN, Utah

ALMA B. MOORE, Professional Staff Member
PETER M. STEFFES, Professional Staff Member

ANDREW A. FEINSTEIN, Subcommittee Professional Staff Member
BETTY B. GRAY, Staff Assistant

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CONTENTS

CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF HEARINGS

1989

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Madigan, Hon. Edward R., a Representative from Illinois-Continued

Prepared statement

Martin, Hon. David O'B., a Representative from New York, ranking minority

member, Military Installations and Facilities Subcommittee

Matsui, Hon. Robert T., a Representative from California:

Statement......

Prepared statement

Statement.....

McCloskey, Hon. Frank, a Representative from Indiana:

Prepared statement

Pallone, Hon, Frank, Jr., a Representative from New Jersey:

Statement......

Prepared statement

Pelosi, Hon. Nancy, a Representative from California:

Statement.....

Prepared statement

Porter, John Edward a Representative from Illinois:

Statement....

Prepared statement

Saxton, Hon. H. James, a Representative from New Jersey:

Schroeder, Hon. Patricia, a Representative from Colorado, chairwoman, Mili

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tary Installations and Facilities Subcommittee:

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Smith, Hon. Christopher H., a Representative from New Jersey:

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Prepared statement

52

Solarz, Hon. Stephen J., a Representative from New York: Prepared state

ment.

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Torricelli, Hon. Robert G., a Representative from New Jersey: Prepared statement..

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PRINCIPAL WITNESSES WHO APPEARED IN PERSON OR SUBMITTED WRITTEN STATEMENTS

Conahan, Frank, Assistant Comptroller General, National Security and International Affairs Division, U.S. General Accounting Office:

Statement........

295

Prepared statement

299

Edwards Hon. Jack, former Representative from Alabama, appearing as cochairman, Defense Secretary's Commission on Base Realignment and Clo

sure:

Statement...

341

Prepared statement

347

Goldberger, George S., president, Citizens Against Government Waste: Prepared Statement.

595

Hale, Robert F., Assistant Director, National Security Division, Congressional
Budget Office:

Statement......

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Prepared statement

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Koch, Hon. Edward I., Mayor, city of New York: Prepared statement.
Peirce, James M., President, National Federation of Federal Employees:
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Raso, Sollie, Pueblo County Commissioner, Pueblo Chamber of Commerce:
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Prepared statement

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Ribicoff, Hon. Abraham, former U.S. Senator from Connecticut, appearing as cochairman, Defense Secretary's Commission on Base Realignment and Closure:

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Prepared statement

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Stone, Robert A., Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense (Installations):
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Prepared statement

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BASE REALIGNMENT AND CLOSURE, MEMBERS

OF CONGRESS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES,

MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AND
FACILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE,

Washington, DC, Wednesday, February 22, 1989.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 9:30 a.m., in room 2118, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Patricia Schroeder (chairwoman of the subcommittee) presiding.

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. PATRICIA SCHROEDER, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM COLORADO, CHAIRWOMAN, MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AND FACILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE

Mrs. SCHROEDER. If we can, I would like to call this meeting to order, and I want to thank everyone for being here.

What we are talking about today is the report of the Commission on Base Realignment and Closure. I am going to put my statement in the record. Basically, I think we all know what this hearing is about. It is in reference to the closure of different bases that was announced on January 1.

The complaint we have heard most from our colleagues is, they have been unable to get any information as to why and upon what basis the decision was made to close these different bases. So the one goal this committee has is to get those answers, and that is what we are going to be working on very hard.

I am pleased to announce we have just had delivered to us this morning a letter from Deputy Secretary William Taft (which I will insert in the record) saying that he would release all the information related to the Commission on Base Realignment and Closure. Now we want to see it, and we want to make sure we get those answers, and at least that is a good beginning. So we have a letter saying they will. We will next Wednesday have a hearing and see if they do. So we will be taking the questions that different Members have this morning and moving forward.

Let me announce early on that Congressman Hamilton was to be here this morning, and he has been called up to testify all day in the North trial, and so obviously he cannot be here. If he wishes to come next Wednesday and is not in trial, we will certainly have him. He was very concerned about this, and he certainly has an excused absence, I think, in that situation.

But let me thank you all for being here. We have a real time constraint to move on today, so I am going to move right along, and let me turn it over to our very honorable ranking Member, Mr. Martin from New York.

PREPARED STATEMENT OF HON. PATRICIA SCHROEDER

I am delighted to welcome everyone to today's hearing on the Report of the Commission on Base Realignment and

Closure. I am especially excited about today's hearing as this is my first as chairwoman of this subcommittee.

The

Today's hearing provides an opportunity for members of Congress to express their views concerning the recommendations of the Base Closing Commission. Commission, which submitted its report on New Years' Eve, recommended the total closure of 86 bases, the partial closure of five, and the realignment of another 54. After an upfront expenditure of $1 billion, the Commission's recommendations are supposed to save almost $700 million

annually thereafter.

The complaint I have heard most from my colleagues is that they have been unable to attain the information on which the Commission based its decisions and the rationale for those decisions. So, one useful goal we can accomplish this morning is to lay out on the record all the questions and uncertainties concerning the Commission's report.

Then, next Wednesday, we will have the co-chairmen of the Commission, Pentagon officials responsible for implementation, and representatives of the General

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