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Mr. ADLERMAN. Why would you buy sporting equipment? Mr. EARL GRIFFIN. Well, most men who work, if they have any time off, they enjoy sports more than anything else. I have always found that that

Mr. ADLERMAN. Who would use this equipment?

Mr. EARL GRIFFIN. Company supervision, associates from without our State, from over the country.

Mr. ADLERMAN. Did you use it?

Mr. EARL GRIFFIN. Me? If I were with them I would get the benefit out of it on occasions.

Mr. ADLERMAN. Did you ever use it without them being present? Mr. EARL GRIFFIN. You are speaking of what, a motor or a boat? Mr. ADLERMAN. A motor or a boat?

Mr. EARL GRIFFIN. I am quite certain on occasions I have used it, the same as I have the automobile.

Mr. ADLERMAN. Where were the motor and outboard motor kept? Mr. EARL GRIFFIN. Just like the photograph equipment and other stuff. I was responsible for it at the time I was in office.

Mr. ADLERMAN. Where did you keep this hunting equipment?

Mr. EARL GRIFFIN. Some of it in the garage, sometimes in the local union, sometimes left on the river.

Mr. ADLERMAN. Did you have a fish camp?

Mr. EARL GRIFFIN. Me? Surely. Well, now, I say I have a fish camp. We have built it up over a period of years. If you want to call it mine, it started at scrap and the union has always used it. I have not stayed in it in years. I have visited it on occasions a few times a year.

Mr. ADLERMAN. Who has title to it? Who owns it?

Mr. EARL GRIFFIN. I don't even know that there is any record of it. Mr. ADLERMAN. Do you keep the equipment at that fish camp? Mr. EARL GRIFFIN. A lot of it. I say a lot, there is the boat and motor kept down there.

Mr. ADLERMAN. And do you and your brother use it mostly?

Mr. EARL GRIFFIN. I have been fishing, I guess, three or four times in 2 years. Maybe a half of dozen times. I could not be specific, but if you call that using it, I would. But it is mostly used by members, by guests, management.

Mr. ADLERMAN. I have no further questions.

The CHAIRMAN. I am sorry we will not have the opportunity to further interrogate you about these matters, and I don't want to ask you now to come back up here, and I don't want to hold you over until tomorrow.

May I suggest to your counsel that he read over this record, and he has seen the other, if he wants to keep it tonight and go over it so he can mark anything I don't want to release it to the press-if he wants to look them over he may and go over them to get into his mind any of this testimony.

Then if he wishes to further answer anything that is in the record, you may prepare an affidavit in proper form and send it up here to us. I am doing that, trying to be accommodating, and not to keep you here. I don't want to deny to him the opportunity to place any material fact in the record that you think we should have in it. I don't know how to do it any better than that. We have to leave now to vote.

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Mr. GENTRY. I can keep these how long?

The CHAIRMAN. How long will you be?

Mr. GENTRY. I will be here until this weekend, anyhow.

The CHAIRMAN. As long as you are here in Washington you may keep them. I don't want you to take them away.

Mr. GENTRY. May I make copies of what I think is pertinent?

The CHAIRMAN. You may make notes, but don't make photostatic copies. I can't do that. I am going overboard right now to accommodate you.

Mr. GENTRY. If you don't want that done, to be frank and candid with you, it will not be done.

The CHAIRMAN. I don't want it actually copied, but you may make notes upon which you may predicate any refutation of it. I cannot just release these records.

Well, with that, the committee will be in recess, subject to the call of the Chair.

The record will be kept for such further information as the committee may desire to receive.*

(Whereupon, the committee recessed at 6:39 p.m., to reconvene subject to the call of the Chair. Members of the subcommittee present at time of recess: Senators McClellan and Ervin.)

*See appendix, p. 237.

APPENDIX

After these hearings had been concluded, several documents pertaining to the matter under investigation were received by the subcommittee. Pursuant to the instructions of the chairman, they have been made exhibits and are reproduced below.

EXHIBIT No. 34

AFFIDAVIT

STATE OF ARKANSAS,

County of Union, ss:

I, Mrs. M. C. Carter, who currently resides at 908 Haney Avenue, El Dorado, Ark., make the following statement:

From July 1949 to July 1955 I was employed as secretary and bookkeeper in the office of local 706, Steamfitters & Plumbers Union, El Dorado, Ark.

During the period 1951-54, the Government constructed a large arsenal at Pine Bluff, Ark. It was a huge construction job and a large number of men worked out of local 706. In conversations with Earl Griffin, business manager of local 706, he advised me that everyone was required to pay a weekly assessment that worked on this job. I kept a record of the assessment moneys that came into the office of local 706. Most of the workers on this job were members of local 706. I kept cards on the assessment payments received from members, not only of local 706 workers, but also from individuals from local 665 and local 155. Nothing was ever said to me about voluntary contributions from workers on the Pine Bluff job. Everyone was required to pay the assessment money, thus very few were delinquent in their payment. I cannot recall ever making up a list of people on the Pine Bluff job that were delinquent in their assessment payments. However, if I did make up such a list, all workers on the Pine Bluff job whom we had a record on in the office were put on the list if he was behind in his payments. No distinction was made between members of local 706 and members of other locals because all members were required to pay the weekly assessment into local 706. All the assessment moneys that were delivered to the office of local 706 were delivered by Mr. "Red" Yocum or Mr. Earl Griffin.

I am currently waiting for portcall to join my husband in Germany.
The above statement is true and accurate to my best knowledge.
Mrs. M. C. CARTER.

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 26th day of August 1960.
[SEAL]

My commission expires July 26, 1961.

A. DEBOSER,
Notary Public.

EXHIBIT No. 35

M. L. J. DUFFY,

FEDERAL RECORDS CENTER, GSA,
U.S. NAVAL STATION, BUILDING 10,
New Orleans, La., November 8, 1960.

Senate McClellan Investigating Committee, Room 101, Senate Office Building, Washington, D.C.

DEAR MR. DUFFY: The additional searches relating to retained records of the Blaw-Knox Co., CPFF contract No. DA-49-129-eng 99, which you requested on November 7, 1960, have been completed.

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We have extracted the payrolls pertinent to the new categories of data you established; there are 157 payrolls involved.

An analysis of these payrolls is attached hereto. This shows, by weekly payroll number and date, the following: (1) 956 employees in code 12 classification who worked 8 hours or less; and (2) 3,068 employees in code 12 classification who worked more than 8 hours but not exceeding 16 hours.

In rechecking certain figures forwarded in the recapitulation of November 4, 1960, a typographical error has been noted in connection with payroll 155, dated January 15, 1954. For this payroll, under the column entiled "Number of employees who worked 16 hours or less," please change the figure 16 to 1. This revises the grand total from 4,039 to 4,024.

Kindly also make this correction-inserting 4,024 in lieu of 4,039-in paragraphs 3 and 4 of my covering letter, dated November 4, 1960.

We are glad to learn that the recapitulation forwarded on November 4 has proved to be of assistance to you.

ANALYSIS OF PAYROLLS

J. E. RICE, Chief.

Blaw-Knox Co., contract DA-129-eng 99: BKC 3615, Pine Bluff, Ark., showing number of code 12 employees by payroll; and grouped thereunder according to (1) employees who worked 8 hours or less; and (2) employees who worked more than 8 hours but not exceeding 16 hours.

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I certify that, to the best of my knowledge and belief, all figures listed in the foregoing analysis are true and correct, as based on actual figures in retained payrolls of CPP Contract No. DA-49-129-eng 99, in custody of this Center. J. E. RICE. NEW ORLEANS, LA., November 8, 1960.

STATE OF ARKANSAS,

EXHIBIT No. 36

AFFIDAVIT OF NORWOOD DEAL

County of Jefferson, ss:

I am Norwood Deal and I live at 312 Laurel Street in Pine Bluff, Ark. At the present time I am working for Blaw-Knox Construction Co. on the International Paper Co. job in Pine Bluff, Ark.

During 1951 and 1954 Blaw-Knox Construction Co. was constructing the Pine Bluff Arsenal for the U.S. Government and I was an employee of Blaw-Knox Construction Co. during that time for the construction of this arsenal. I was employed by Blaw-Knox at that time as a journeyman pipefitter and I worked there on the Pine Bluff Arsenal job during this period of time for approximately 4 months. I secured my job through local 706 although I was not a member of local 706. I went to work on the job and worked there and I did pay $3.50 a week into local 706 while I was working on the job, but it was paid strictly as a voluntary contribution.

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