Mr. ZIEGLER. No, sir. Let me make that clear. The list we are handing out to you, George, is the non-career professional list. You will be familiar with all of the names on that list, I am sure. It is the professional staff of the Office of the President. In November that totalled 147 and it is that figure, the 147, that has already been reduced by 32 percent. The non-career professional staff of the President has already been reduced by 32 percent as will be indicated on the material we hand to you. The non-career professional staff of the President which in November totalled 147 by, let's say, June, will be further reduced to about 40 percent or so based on decisions that have already been made by some as to what they intend to do. Q. You have noted who has gone? Mr. ZIEGLER. We have noted on the list the announced plans. In other words, we have on the list returning to private life, going to the Department of Transportation, and you will find when you look at that list: that the reduction from November is already a reduction of the White House staff of 32 percent. The 147 that I am referring to is a part of the 510 authorized, but the difference is the clerical and support people I have refererd to. I have already mentioned to you that the 510 authorized figure for fiscal 1973 is being reduced to 480 for fiscal 1974, so we are reducing also the clerical and support personnel; but we are reducing substantially the non-career professional staff. Q. Ron, when you said by June 147 will be reduced by 40 percent, you included the 32 percent already? Mr. ZIEGLER. Yes, I am, not an additional amount. It is already 32 percent. For example, the personnel department which right now is in the process of hiring and looking for capable people to come into government now is naturally larger than when the government is in place and the total reduction of the 147 will be approximately 40 percent. Q. The 147 is in addition to the 510? Mr. ZIEGLER. No, the 147 is included in the 510. Q. I didn't understand your reply to Aldo's question about growing like Topsy. Was the President wrong then? Mr. ZIEGLER. No, not at all. I think I gave you the impression that he had. Q. He had the wrong impression? Mr. ZIEGLER. No, he had the right impression. If you have a figure of 4,250 which can be reduced by 2,000, then his impression is right. Q. He said it has grown like Topsy and you are saying it has actually been reduced. Mr. ZIEGLER. Maybe he was making reference in his overall comment to the Domestic Council staff, for example, which was set up by statute. Q. The Domestic Council is not included in these figures. Mr. ZIEGLER. The Domestic Council is included in the Executive Office of the President. That, for example, is being reduced 66 percent. Q. That is what the President recommended. He created it? Mr. ZIEGLER. The Domestic Council grew like Topsy. It is being reduced by 66 percent. Q. The whole business you are telling us has been reduced instead of growing like Topsy. It has actually been reduced? Mr. ZIEGLER. I think the point I was making to you, Gene, at the outset, has been misinterpreted or misunderstood and that is the White House staff or the Executive office of the White House staff has doubled in five years. The figures I gave you, separate from the Federal budget, prove that is incorrect. The President's reference to growing like Topsy refers to the fact that over the years it has increased substantially. Q. This 32 percent reduction you are talking about is in what period? Q. Until now? Mr. ZIEGLER. Until now. Q. Do you mean that is your 510– Mr. ZEIGLER. In November of 1972 the authorized level was 510. Out of that 510 there were 14 non-career professionals. That 147 already has been reduced 32 percent. Q. You have the 1972 figure, 540. That is a reduction of 30 people between 1972 and 1973? Mr. ZIEGLER. I am sorry! You are mixing up fiscal year budgets versus the calendar year. The PRESS. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. APPENDIX 1-D.-PRESS RELEASE OF NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION RE REORGANIZATION PLAN No. 1 NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION TRANSFER OF OST FUNCTIONS TO DIRECTOR OF NSF In keeping with the President's announced intention of reducing the overall size of his Executive Office and making greater use of Departments and Agencies, the President has proposed to Congress to abolish the Office of Science and Technology and transfer its functions to the Director of the National Science Foundation. Setting forth the Reorganization Plan, the White House said, “With a growing range of capability in the NSF, the President will now look to its Director as a principal advisor in science and technology matters." In his message to the Congress transmitting the Reorganization Plan, the President further said, "It is also my intention, after the transfer of responsibilities is effected, to ask Dr. H. Guyford Stever, the current Director of the Foundation, to take on the additional post of Science Adviser. In this capacity, he would advise and assist the White House, Office of Management and Budget, Domestic Council, and other entities within the Executive Office of the President on matters where scientific and technological expertise is called for, and would act as the President's representative in selected cooperative programs in international scientific affairs, including chairing such joint bodies as the U.S.-U.S.S.R. Joint Commission on Scientific and Technical Cooperation." The Director of the Foundation would, with respect to civilian research and development: Appraise the overall effectiveness of ongoing Federal and National R&D efforts to advance national goals through science and technology. Make recommendations on policy and program actions necessary to achieve these national goals through science and technology. The Director of the Foundation would form an Office of Science Policy to consider such matters. The Director would report to the President through George P. Shultz, Assistant to the President. The NSF would continue OST emphasis on the science and technology base for national domestic R&D in such fields as energy, natural resources, health, social systems, transportation, communications, education, and participation in international programs in which science and technology are vital elements. The Director of the National Science Foundation, Dr. H. Guyford Stever, would serve as a focal point for the President in interaction with the academic and industrial science communities on broad matters of science policy, as well as in selected cooperative programs with the international science community. He would serve as Chairman of the U.S.-U.S.S.R. Joint Commission on Scientific and Technical Cooperation. A Science Policy Council within the Federal Government would be formed to consider policy problems in science and technology, which affect more than one Federal agency or which concern the overall advancement of the Nation's science and technology. The Chairman of the Science Policy Council would be the Director of the National Science Foundation. Membership of the Council would be composed of policy level individuals from Federal departments and agencies. The dedicated efforts of the many outstanding scientists and engineers, who, as members and consultants of the President's Science Advisory Committee and the Office of Science and Technology, over the years, have worked to help shape the directions of science and direct the efforts of science and engineering to the solution of national problems are widely recognized and appreciated. It is expected that many of these outstanding individuals will continue to be called upon to render their valuable advice and services. APPENDIX 2-A.-EXECUTIVE ORDER 11703 OF FEBRUARY 7, 1973 EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT, OFFICE OF Management and Budget, Hon. CHET HOLIFIELD, Chairman, Committee on Government Operations, House of Representatives, DEAR MR. CHAIRMAN: In his message transmitting Reorganization Plan No. 1 of 1973 to the Congress, the President announced his intention to designate the Deputy Secretary of the Treasury as the Chairman of the Oil Policy Committee in place of the Director of the Office of Emergency Preparedness, General Lincoln, who retired on January 20, 1973. Enclosed is a copy of Executive Order No. 11703 of February 7, 1973, which accomplishes that transfer. Sincerely, Enclosure. FREDERIC V. MALEK, Deputy Director. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11703 ASSIGNING POLICY DEVELOPMENT AND DIRECTION FUNCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE OIL IMPORT CONTROL PROGRAM By virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, and as President of the United States, it is hereby ordered as follows: SECTION 1. The Oil Policy Committee, as reconstituted by this order, is hereby continued. SEC. 2. The Chairman of the Oil Policy Committee shall provide policy direction, coordination, and surveillance of the oil import control program established by Proclamation No. 3279 of March 10, 1959, as amended, including approval of regulations hereafter issued pursuant to such proclamation. He shall perform those functions after receiving the advice of the Oil Policy Committee and in accordance with guidance from the Assistant to the President with responsibility in the area of economic affairs. SEC. 3. The Oil Policy Committee shall henceforth consist of the Deputy Secretary of the Treasury, as Chairman, and the Secretaries of State, Defense, the Interior, and Commerce, the Attorney General, and the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, as members. The President may, from time to time, designate other officials to serve as members of the Committee. The Chairman may create subcommittees of the Committee to study and report to the Committee concerning specified subject matters. SEC. 4. The Oil Policy Committee shall consult with and advise the Chairman on oil import policy, including the operation of the control program under Proclamation No. 3279, as amended, and on recommendations for changes in the program by the issuance of new proclamations with respect to it, or otherwise. SEC. 5. Section 6 of Proclamation No. 3279 of March 10, 1959, as amended, is amended to read as follows: "SEC. 6. The Chairman of the Oil Policy Committee shall maintain a constant surveillance of imports of petroleum and its primary derivatives in respect to the national security and, after consultation with the Oil Policy Committee, he shall inform the President of any circumstances which, in the Chairman's opinion might indicate the need for further Presidential action under section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 (19 U.S.C. 1862), as amended. In the event prices of crude oil or its products or derivatives should be increased after the effective date of this proclamation, such surveillance shall include a determination as to whether such increase or increases are necessary to accomplish the national security objectives of section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962, as amended, and of this proclamation." |