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Mr. KENNEDY. Who were they?

Mr. WURMS. Milton Holt and Daniel Ornstein, who is a trustee for local 805.

Mr. KENNEDY. After Blaustein left you, did he join these three men?

Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir. He crossed the street and joined them. There was another unidentified person. They walked to the parking lot and entered a 1956 Cadillac coupe de ville, New York license WS-7050, which was listed to Milton Holt at Wurtsboro, N.Y.

Mr. KENNEDY. Did some of your other agents follow that car? Mr. WURMS. They followed the car to the vicinity of 56th Street and Broadway where they parked it in a parking garage. The four men proceeded to 1780 Broadway.

Mr. KENNEDY. 1780 Broadway was the headquarters of local 805? Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Holt, Ornstein, and the unidentified third man got in the elevator. Blaustein remained in the lobby. A few minutes later, Blaustein's Cadillac drove up and the person driving it was identified as Clarence Jackson, alias Mookie. He is a Negro interstate violator and a convicted narcotic trafficker.

Blaustein held a 15-minute conversation with Jackson and then returned to 1780 Broadway and entered the offices of local 805.

Mr. KENNEDY. Then did you meet Blaustein later on that evening? Mr. WURMS. I did, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. According to the other narcotics agents who were keeping a surveilance on the union headquarters, Blaustein left there at 6 o'clock that evening?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Do you mean he left union headquarters?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct; came out of 1780 Broadway. My meeting with him was at 7 o'clock that evening.

The CHAIRMAN. In other words, according to the evidence up to now, he was a representative of the union?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. He was employed by the union. He was operating out of the union hall?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. That was in the course of making these narcotics deals.

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. Incidentally, some of your agents followed the driver, and he went up to meet some other narcotics people further uptown in New York City, in Harlem ; is that correct?

Mr. WURMS. Clarence Jackson was followed and he went to the Harlem area where he was observed to meet Dillard Morrison alias Red Dillon, William A. Stafford, who is also a narcotic violator, and they then discontinued the surveillance of Mookie Jackson and returned to the area of 1780 Broadway.

Mr. KENNEDY. Then, coming back to what happened to you personally, at 6 o'clock Blaustein left the headquarters and your agents followed him. What happened then?

Mr. WURMS. Blaustein, I believe, walked toward 60th Street and Columbus Circle, and then he retraced his steps and appeared to be

looking at all the passers-by. It appeared to be that he was looking to see if he was being followed. The surveillance agents knew where I was to meet Blaustein and, rather than make him apprehensive, they discontinued their surveillance and proceeded to the area of York

Avenue.

Mr. KENNEDY. Did you meet with him then?

Mr. WURMS. I did, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. What happened?

Mr. WURMS. At 7 o'clock I met Blaustein and we again had a conversation concerning the narcotics. I was going to pick up 2 ounces. He was concerned about that he had a quantity of narcotics on hand that he wanted to dispose of before he left for Florida.

We left the York Inn and we walked south on York Avenue. I believe it was 61st Street when Blaustein handed me a package which contained 2 ounces of cocaine. I handed him $1,600 official Government advance funds.

Mr. KENNEDY. The arrest of Blaustein was held off at that time, was it not, in the hopes that you could find out where the source of the narcotics was?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. Was it felt that it was coming in through Florida? Mr. WURMS. We received information that Blaustein was receiving the narcotics from Isadore Shadalasky, alias Buddy Shad, who received it from Cuba.

Mr. KENNEDY. Did Blaustein, in fact, go down to Florida and go to the Colonnades Hotel, from February 18 to March 5, 1956? Mr. WURMS. He did, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Who was this fellow he was supposed to be receiving it from in Florida?

Mr. WURMS. Isadore Shadalasky, alias Isadore Shad.

The CHAIRMAN. Had he been in the party that Holt and Blaustein had been meeting?

Mr. WURMS. Our investigation showed that Blaustein, Holt, and Shad knew each other.

The CHAIRMAN. You said that they met with certain other people down there. You named some of them a while ago. Was he included in those names?

Mr. WURMS. Not at the particular times that I mentioned, sir. The CHAIRMAN. All right.

Mr. KENNEDY. At that time, when Blaustein went down to Florida, he met with Frankie Dioguardi; is that right?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. He is the brother of Johnny Dioguardi; is that correct?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. And Freddie Felice?

Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir alias Freddie Franco.

Mr. KENNEDY. At that time was there also a meeting at the Club Ciro, in Miami, Fla., in the office of the Club Ciro?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. Weren't you able to determine that attending that meeting were Frank Dioguardi; his uncle, Jimmy Doyle alias James Plumeri; and George Baker?

Mr. WURMS. They were with the same group as Blaustein and Holt at the hotel. They were all together.

Mr. KENNEDY. Was Milton Holt also present?

Mr. WURMS. In the hotel; yes, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. At the same time that these people were?

Mr. WURMS. No; not at the Club Ciro.

Mr. KENNEDY. At the hotel, then?

Mr. WURMS. At the hotel there was Jimmy Doyle, James Plumeri alias Jimmy Doyle, Milton Holt, Allie Gordon, George Baker, Blaustein, and Allen Smythe.

Mr. KENNEDY. Who participated in the meeting at Ciro's?

Mr. WURMS. That was Frankie Dio and Freddie Felice and other people.

Mr. KENNEDY. Other people?

Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir.

(At this point Senator Goldwater entered the hearing room.)

Mr. KENNEDY. The records at the hotel showed that Milton Holt joined Blaustein at the hotel on February 29 and registered under the name of Milton Harvey, do they not?

Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir.

(At this point Senator McClellan withdrew from the hearing room.)

Mr. KENNEDY. Subsequently, on March 5 and March 12, Blaustein took a trip to Cuba?

Mr. WURMS. He did, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. And at that time he was in contact with this gentleman you mentioned earlier, Salvatore Granello?

Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir; who was associated with Buddy Shad. Mr. KENNEDY. And at that time who was vice president of Amalgamated Local 130?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. Then, subsequently, your agents saw Holt and Blaustein together, both in Miami and in New York City; is that correct?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. They were frequently in one another's company? Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. Did you receive information-I will just go back on some of these names. There seems to be some difficulty. Buddy Shad; is that right?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct.

Mr. KENNEDY. He was supposed to have been the source of some of these narcotics?

Mr. WURMS. That is the way we received the information.

Mr. KENNEDY. Closely associated with him was Salvatore Granello? Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. And at that time, he was an associate of Blaustein and Shad, and at the same time was president of Amalgamated Local 130?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. Which was located in room 1201, at 1780 Broadway? Mr. WURMS. That is right.

Mr. KENNEDY. The same building that local 805 was in?

Mr. WURMS. That is right.

Mr. KENNEDY. And as for the meeting down in Florida, where the group of people were all together, we had Jimmy Doyle, whose real name is James Plumeri?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct.

Mr. KENNEDY. The uncle of Johnny Dioguardi. We also had George Baker?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct.

Mr. KENNEDY. George Baker is a narcotics violator and was a witness before this committee as an officer of one of the paper locals.. I don't know if you know that.

Mr. WURMS. Yes, and also at the time of Blaustein's arrest he had a business card from George Baker.

Mr. KENNEDY. Frankie Dioguardi was there, and he is Johnny Dio-guardi's brother?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct.

Mr. KENNEDY. And Milton Holt?

Mr. WURMS. And another narcotic violator, Freddie Felice, alias Freddie Franco.

Mr. KENNEDY. How do you spell Lou Bernie?

Mr. WURMS. B-e-r-n-i-e.

Mr. KENNEDY. And Isadore Shadalasky?

Mr. WURMS. S-h-a-d-a-l-a-s-k-y.

Mr. KENNEDY. He is known as Buddy Shad?

Mr. WURMS. Buddy Shad.

Mr. KENNEDY. S-h-a-d?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

(At this point Senator McClellan entered the hearing room.)

Mr. KENNEDY. On October 1, you received information that Blau-stein and Holt were on their way to the west coast and believed to be carrying narcotics; is that right?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.
Mr. KENNEDY. October 1, 1956?
Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. And did you find that when they arrived at the west coast that they registered at the Beverly Hills Hotel?

Mr. WURMS. They did, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. Was an arrest made at the time at the Beverly Hills: Hotel?

Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir.

(At this point Senator Curtis withdraw from the hearing room.) Mr. KENNEDY. By representatives of the Bureau of Narcotics?

Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. What did you find at that time? You did not find any narcotics on either one of them?

Mr. WURMS. No; no narcotics were found. A search of Milton Holt disclosed $3,500 in his pocket.

Mr. KENNEDY. $3,500 in cash?

Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. Milton Holt had that?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. And Blaustein, what did he have?

Mr. WURMS. He had in his possession a dues book, No. 2396, of local 649, United Auto Workers Union, which was Johnny Dioguardi's local.

The dues book indicated initiation date of January 1950 and dues paid to may 1955. During the interrogation by Mr. Martin and Mr. Willse and myself of Blaustein, he indicated that he was unempolyed and it was very hard for him to obtain any medical benefits from Blue Cross, and he wanted to be protected in some way. Therefore, he went to his good friend Johnny Dio, and obtained a dues book.

Mr. KENNEDY. Which entitled him to be in the welfare fund; is that right?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. He also had a business card of George Baker, secretary-treasurer of the local?

Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir. I have those documents here, if you wish them.

The CHAIRMAN. As I understand, he got these without being a worker or a laborer, without being in a union? They were just furnished him gratuitously so that he could participate in the welfare fund?

Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir. He was very friendly with Johnny Dio.

The CHAIRMAN. You may present them, and they will be made exhibit No. 40.

(Documents referred to were marked "Exhibit No. 40" for reference and may be found in the files of the select committee.)

Mr. KENNEDY. He also had an address book which contained a nonpublished telephone number of Holt; is that right?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. The phone number of Studio Frocks, which is a company that is owned by Harry Stromberg, alias Nig Rosen? Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. He is now serving a sentence on the importation of narcotics; is that right?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct.

Mr. KENNEDY. The phone number of Matt Forbes?

Mr. WURMS. Yes, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. And Mr. Holt had stated that the reason he was on the west coast was to have a meeting with Matt Forbes; is that right?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. Who was Matt Forbes? Did you ever find that out?

Mr. WURMS. I don't believe we went into too much detail in our investigation, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. Blaustein was subsequently convicted; is that correct?

Mr. WURMS. That is correct, sir.

Mr. KENNEDY. What sentence did he receive?

Mr. WURMS. He received the sentence of 3 years, and at the termination of his sentence he was placed on 3 years' probation.

Mr. KENNEDY. Did you find Mr. Milton Holt's name, as well as Mr. Abe Gordon's name, arising in the files of the Bureau of Narcotics in connection with frequent contacts with known narcotics violators?

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