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Mr. MICHEL. And then we would recognize it would be an average for the State?

Mr. DAVIS. Yes, sir.

Mr. HOLMAAS. And we could supply that for the record.

Mr. MICHEL. Would there be a possibility of also including the extremes in each State, lowest and highest?

Mr. WELLS. I doubt if we know what they are. In every State, there are children who get free lunches, in many schools. The extreme is always no charge, for particular children, not for a whole school. Mr. SANTANGELO. Will the gentleman yield? With respect to your inquiry, a State like Louisiana, which subsidizes the program to a greater extent that the other States, because they make a larger State contribution and they get a better school lunch program than the other States do so that even though you might get your figures, you will be getting school lunches which would vary, and the type of food which varies. So even if you get the average price, you would be comparing unequal things. You will be comparing prices without any knowledge as to the type of lunch program that is being served. Mr. MICHEL. That is true.

Mr. SANTANGELO. I did find out the State of Louisiana makes the greatest contribution of any State, and they give a better school lunch than any other State. So, if you want the analysis, you can have it. Mr. WELLS. You also have the differences in eastern Kentucky, for example. The people who prepare the school lunches draw very low wages. In the other places, you pay relatively high costs for cooks and services. But, nevertheless, I think the difference between States is of some interest.

Mr. MICHEL. Well, if we simply break it down by States to form some pattern, that will serve my particular purpose. And then I can in turn correlate with that these other variances throughout the country, average labor costs, et cetera.

Mr. WELLS. We would be very glad to have someone from the school lunch program sit down with you and go through this. (The information requested follows:)

NATIONAL SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM

Estimated income from sources within States, fiscal year 1958, and participation in December 1957

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$13, 828,000
317,000
5,067, 000
6,963,000
45, 475,000
5, 559,000
8,795,000
1,910, 000
1,318, 000
22, 735,000
19,879, 000

37,000
5,701, 000
2,368,000
30, 615,000
15,092, 000
11, 657.000
6,500,000
12, 590,000
29, 230,000
2,918, 000
13,092,000
20, 047.000
21,832,000
12,885,000
7,960,000
17, 205, 000
1,881,000
4,005, 000
570,000
1,874,000
11, 238, 000
2,780,000
56,972, 000
20,779,000
2,095, 000
31, 315, 000
7,582,000
6, 454, 000
31, 540, 000
6, 111, 000
1,947,000
11, 654, 000
1, 438.000
15, 198, 000
26, 372,000
3,834,000
1,026, 000
18, 139, 000

142,000
10, 562, 000
6,726,000
9,867,000
1, 192, 000

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634, 868, 000

453, 227, 000

83, 623, 000

98,018,000

I Datal or the District of Columbia includes participation in the type C, or milk only, lunch authorized under the national school lunch program. Reimbusement for this type has been discontinued in the other States.

NATIONAL SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM

Price charged children for lunches (weighted average price and most frequent prices charged), fiscal year 19581

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Data based on a survey in 32 States during fiscal year 1958. No data available for schools in other States. Most frequent prices charged children for lunches by schools surveyed. For those States in which 2 different prices occurred most frequently, both prices are shown.

Mr. HORAN. Mr. Chairman, could I inquire why apples are not on this list of section 6 foods? Are these prior year listings?

Mr. LENNARTSON. We bought substantial quantities of apple products in terms of applesauce and sliced apples, which they used for the making of pies and desserts, rather than the apples themselves. Mr. HORAN. It is an awfully good product.

Mr. NATCHER. The committee will recess until 10 o'clock tomorrow.

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