NUMBER OF ALIENS DEPORTED, 1924 AND 1925 Mr. OLIVER. Would it be too much trouble for you to insert in the record the number who were deported in 1924 and number deported during 1925, and up to the present time; state what part of this number have been deported at the expense of the pivate shipping companies that brought them over; also what number, if any, of those found to be unlawfully here and which you have recommended for deportation were brought in by ships under the control of the Shipping Board? Mr. HULL. May I ask whether you refer to the fiscal year or the calendar year? Mr. OLIVER. The fiscal year 1924 and the fiscal year 1925 up to the present time. Mr. HULL. We will insert those figures. Number of aliens deported, fiscal year 1924_ 6, 409 9,495 Number of aliens deported July 1 to Dec. 31, 1925, inclusive, by months: 919 Of the number deported in the fiscal year 1925, 2,191 were deported at the expense of the transportation lines, 7,053 at Government expense, and 251 were permitted to reship, or pay their own transportation. Similar data for the fiscal year 1924 are not available at this time. Our statistics do not show the number of aliens brought in by ships under the control of the Shipping Board. ESTIMATED NUMBER OF ILLEGAL ENTRIES Mr. OLIVER. Here is a statement which appeared in the Washington Post on January 13, 1926, in which it is alleged that the Assistant Secretary of Labor, Mr. White, told the Committee on Immigration that the deportation of 250,000 aliens illegally here is balked by lack of funds. Will you call that to Mr. White's attention and ask him whether that published statement is correct, and if so, what part of the 250,000 came in after 1921, what part of that total came in within the last two years, if he has any information relative to those figures? Mr. HULL. Secretary White was incorrectly quoted, and the following is his statement as it appears in the record: Mr. ROBE CARL WHITE. Oh, yes. We could make the deportations almost anything you wanted, until we rid the country of the aliens who are illegally here. And our best estimate, secured from the directors recently (and it can only be an estimate, you understand), and which I believe is conservative, is there are now between 250,000 and 275,000 aliens in this country who are illegally here, and who are supposed to have entered since 1921. Mr. HULL. I know that what he referred to, there were estimates that I asked for and that were sent in, and which, in my opinion, were merely the estimate of the districts and not thoroughly reliable, because, as I say-and I hope I have made myself clear. Mr. GRIFFIN. Then, their estimate varies so largely with the estimate which you made of 100,000. Mr. HULL. But my estimate was 100,000 in the last year or two, if I remember correctly. That is only a guess. That estimate of 250,000 was of the aliens, who were estimated as being here sincé 1921, or who came in since June 3, 1921. That is another proposition. Mr. GRIFFIN. Your estimate of 100,000 is for the last year or the last two years? Mr. HULL. For the last two years. SALARIES, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Mr. SHREVE. We will take up the item of salaries: For the commissioner general and other personal services in the District of Columbia, in accordance with the classification act of 1923, $91,840. That estimate is the same as your appropriation for 1926. Mr. WAGNER. Yes, sir. Mr. SHREVE. Have you anything to say as to that? Mr. WAGNER. Nothing particularly, Mr. Shreve, unless you wish to ask some questions. REGULATING IMMIGRATION (See pp. 11, 15, 31, and 47) Mr. SHREVE. The next item is as follows: Regulating immigration: For enforcement of the laws regulating immigration of aliens into the United States, including the contract labor laws; cost of reports of decisions of the Federal courts, and digests thereof, for the use of the Commissioner General of Immigration; salaries and expenses of all officers, clerks, and employees appointed to enforce said laws, including not to exceed $136,000 for personal services in the District of Columbia, together with persons authorized by law to be detailed for duty at Washington, D. C.; per diem in lieu of subsistence when allowed pursuant to section 13 of the sundry civil appropriation act approved August 1, 1914; enforcement of the provisions of the act of February 5, 1917, entitled "An act to regulate the immigration of aliens to and the residence of aliens in the United States," and acts amendatory thereof and in addition thereto; necessary supplies, including exchange of typewriting machines, alterations and repairs, and for all other expenses authorized by said act; preventing the unlawful entry of aliens into the United States, by the appointment of suitable officers to enforce the laws in relation thereto; expenses of returning to China all Chinese persons found to be unlawfully in the United States, including the cost of imprisonment and actual expenses of conveyance of Chinese persons to the frontier or seaboard for deportation; refunding of head tax, maintenance bills, and immigration fines upon presentation of evidence showing conclusively that collection was made through error of Government officers; all to be expended under the direction of the Secretary of the Secretary of Labor, $5,084,865: Provided, That $1,000,000 of this amount shall be available only for coast and landborder patrol: Provided further, That the purchase, exchange, use, maintenance, and operation of motor vehicles and allowances for horses, including motor vehicles and horses owned by immigration officers when used on official business required in the enforcement of the immigration and Chinese exclusion laws outside of the District of Columbia may be contracted for and the cost thereof paid from the appropriation for the enforcement of those laws, under such terms and conditions as the Secretary of Labor may prescribe: Provided further, That not more than $100,000 of the sum appropriated herein may be expended in the purchase and maintenance of such motor vehicles, and of such sum of $100,000 not more than $88,000 shall be available for the purchase and maintenance of motor vehicles for coast and land-border patrol. INCREASED AMOUNT FOR PERSONAL SERVICES IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Mr. SHREVE. Will you explain the change of language on page 398,"$136,000" for personal services in the District of Columbia, etc.? There is an increase there of $11,000. Mr. WAGNER. For the current fiscal year we had $125,000, for personal services in the District of Columbia. The deficiency estimate now before Congress increases that amount to $134,000 and makes it the same as it was for 1925. We now ask that the amount be increased to $136,000 for the fiscal year 1927. When we did that, we had in mind the need of additional help in the bureau, and the necessity of making some adjustments in the lower salary grades. We have about 38 clerks in Grades 1, 2, and 3 who are still receiving the minimum salary of the grade. There are clerks in other grades also who receive the minimum salary, but the clerks in the lower grades are the ones in whom we are particularly interested. They will not remain indefinitely with us at the entrance salary. MOTOR VEHICLES FOR BORDER PATROL Mr. SHREVE. Your recommendation for motor vehicles available for land-border patrol remains the same, $88,000. Mr. WAGNER. This year the language reads, I believe, $50,000 of which $38,000 shall be expended for border patrol and $12,000 for immigration work. Mr. SHREVE. It reads: Provided further, That not more than $100,000 of the sum appropriated herein may be expended for the purchase and maintenance of such motor vehicles and of such sum of $100,000 not more than $88,000 shall be available for the purchase and maintenance of motor vehicles for coast and land-border patrol. Mr. WAGNER. That is what we want. Mr. SHREVE. You eliminated the language that was added last year on the floor of the House, as follows: Provided further, That hereafter any employee of the Bureau of Immigration authorized so to do under regulations prescribed by the Commissioner General of Immigration, with the approval of the Secretary of Labor, shall have power without warrant (first) to arrest any alien who in his presence or view is entering or attempting to enter the United States in violation of any law or regulation made in pursuance of law regulating the admission of aliens, and to take such alien immediately for examination before an immigrant inspector or other official having authority to examine aliens as to their right to admission to the United States, and (second) to board and search for aliens any vessel within the territorial waters of the United States, railway car, conveyance of vehicle in which he believes aliens are being brought into the United States; and such employees shall have power to execute any warrant or other process issued by any officer under any law regulating the admission, exclusion, or expulsion of aliens. Mr. WAGNER. The Bureau of the Budget considered that that was permanent legislation from now on and that it was unnecessary to repeat it each year in the appropriation act. IMMIGRATION STATIONS Mr. SHREVE. We will take up the item on page 405: For remodeling, repairing (including repairs to the ferryboat, Ellis Island), renovating buildings, and purchase of equipment, $50,000. That shows a decrease of $25,000. Mr. WAGNER. We believe we can get along with $50,000. EXAMINATION OF IMMIGRANTS ABROAD (See p. 46) Mr. SHREVE. Do you find that the change in practice in foreign countries regarding the selection of immigrants coming to this country is reducing your expense at Ellis Island? Mr. WAGNER. Very little up to this time. We still have a personnel of 454 at Ellis Island. The general expenses run to about $230,000 a year, and the annual salary obligation of the present force is $770,000 additional. Mr. SHREVE. A considerable portion of the work you formerly did at Ellis Island is now being done in foreign countries, is it not? Mr. WAGNER. I am not familiar enough with the details of the work at Ellis Island to talk about it. I think Mr. Hull ought to discuss that subject. I can tell you the number of officers in foreign countries and what the additional cost will be approximately. Mr. GRIFFIN. How many people have you in foreign countries enforcing this new program of inspection and examination of prospective immigrants before they board the steamers for the United States? Mr. WAGNER. We now have ten officers assigned to the consulates. Mr. GRIFFIN. At what points? Mr. WAGNER. London, two; Liverpool, one; Southampton, one; Dublin, one; Cobh, one; Belfast, one; Glasgow, one; and at Antwerp and Rotterdam, one each. Mr. GRIFFIN. What are their salaries? Mr. WAGNER. Their salaries are $3,000 each, with the exception of the supervisor of technical advisors, whose salary is $4,000. Then we have one man who gets $3,800. That was the salary he received before he left. Mr. GRIFFIN. What is his rank? Mr. WAGNER. He is also a technical adviser. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where does the man whom you call a supervisor have his headquarters? Mr. WAGNER. London. He operates from London, and his duties are to travel from one consulate to another and see that the immigration work is carried on properly, and to issue instructions to technical advisers from time to time in regard to administrative matters, and acts as relief man for all. In fact, he is to supervise generally the work we are doing abroad. Mr. GRIFFIN. These 12 immigration agents that you have abroad work, I presume, in cooperation with the consuls and with the surgeons of the Public Health Service? 83326-26 -3 Mr. WAGNER. They do. We have no supervision, however, over the Public Health Service. Mr. SHREVE. Do you have any men on the ships? Mr. WAGNER. No, sir. Mr. SHREVE. The only force you have is that which you have mentioned? Mr. WAGNER. Yes. So far, it is working out very nicely, and it has reduced to a great extent the troubles we have had in detaining aliens, particularly at Ellis Island. Mr. White's letter to the Secretary of State goes into quite some detail about that. Mr. SHREVE. Will you insert that letter in the record? Mr. WAGNER. Yes. (The letter is as follows:) Hon. FRANK B. KELLOGG, Secretary of State. DECEMBER 2, 1925. MY DEAR MR. SECRETARY: I have the honor to acknowledge receipt of Mr. Carr's letter of November 28 on the subject of extending the "British plan to other countries in Europe, in which you solicit the views of this department as to the results obtained from the experiment in Great Britain, and ask for an estimate of the cost to this service of proposed extension of the plan to countries listed by you. As to the results obtained from the experiment in Great Britain, I am advised by the Bureau of Immigration that between August 1 and December 1 513 immigrants arriving at our ports with initialed visas were hald for hearings before boards of special inquiry, the great majority of these being cases in which a symbol recommending such action was added by technical advisers at the issuing consulates. All of the 513 thus held were duly admitted by said boards with the exception of 39, who were found excludable by said boards for some cause. Of the 39 aliens excluded by the various boards of special inquiry at our ports 35 appealed to the Secretary of Labor from the excluding decision. Four refused to appeal, or under the law were not entitled to an appeal, and were returned direct from the ports. Of the 35 who appealed to the Secretary of Labor 32 were admitted, 2 were ordered deported, and 1 case is still pending for adjustment of quota. This means only six aliens arriving from Great Britain and the Irish Free State between August 1 and December 1 were returned, and indicates the plan has proven almost 100 per cent perfect. From an immigration viewpoint, the plan has worked successfully and both the department and bureau have no hesitancy in placing their stamp of approval upon it and urgently recommending its extension to other countries. For comparison purposes the record for the corresponding months of the previous year is being tabulated and as soon as received will be furnished your department. As to the funds which must be made available for the purposes of extending the plan, this department is ready to supply the men for placing the plan in operation in other countries without additional appropriation. The immigrant inspectors sent for service in Great Britain and the Irish Free State were assigned from our regular inspector force and no new appointments made. Therefore, the only additional expense to this department was the travel, some per diem, and a few incidentals, which expense was defrayed from our regular appropriation. It is noted by the list furnished you propose to extend this service to six other countries, requiring the services of at least 13 additional inspectors. It is also noted that your list fails to mention Poland, although it was this department's understanding that this country would be included and would require one additional inspector. Presuming that 25 inspectors might be required to adequately man the various posts eventually required under this plan, this department is prepared to furnish said number without need of additional appropriation, provided, of course, our annual appropriation should not suffer a further reduction. In other words, this department proposes to recruit the necessary number of |