Chapter total amount of the votes outstanding in that class be
XXII. granted for the services defined in the class,' then in like
Part IV. manner to put severally the questions that the total amounts

of the votes outstanding in the estimates for the navy, the
army, and the revenue departments be granted for the
services defined in those estimates. At ten of the clock
on the last (not being earlier than the twentieth of the
allotted days) the Speaker is directed to put forthwith
every question necessary to dispose of the report of the
resolution then under consideration, and then to put forth-
with with respect to each class of the civil service estimates,
the question, that the house doth agree with the committee
in all the outstanding resolutions reported in respect of
that class, and then to put a like question with respect
to all the resolutions outstanding in the estimates for the
navy, the army, the revenue departments, and other out-
standing resolutions severally.

On the days appointed for concluding the business of
supply, its consideration may not be anticipated by a
motion of adjournment, and no dilatory motion may be
moved on proceedings for that business and the business
may not be interrupted under any standing order.2

The standing order also provides that any additional estimate for any new matter not included in the original estimates for the year, shall be submitted for consideration in the committee of supply on some day not later than two days before the committee is closed.

3

tion.

An instruction to the committee of supply cannot be Instrucmoved, as, following the Speaker's ruling, "nothing can be brought on in that committee of which notice has not been given in detail, by the estimates laid before the house." 4

1 The chairman in putting these questions states the total amount remaining to be voted for each class, but not the individual amounts and services, 99 Parl. Deb. 4 s. 139–146.

2 A motion is usually made at the commencement of public business on the last of the days allotted to supply, to enable other business to

be taken as soon as supply is con-
cluded, 160 C. J. 388.

That is to say, the estimate
must be upon the notice paper as an
effective supply vote on a day not
later than two days before the com-
mittee closes, 99 Parl. Deb. 4 s.
159, 363.

• Mirror of Parl. 1828, p. 1972.

S. 0. 51,

Appendix I.

XXII.

Procedure on the Speaker's leaving the chair.-The ancient Chapter constitutional doctrine, that redress of grievances should be considered before the grant of supply, is maintained by Part IV. the provision in standing order No. 51, that the question that the Speaker do leave the chair must be proposed, whenever it is intended that the house should resolve itself into the committee of supply; but the operation of this standing order is considerably restricted by standing order No. 17, which provides that whenever the committee of supply is to be taken the Speaker shall leave the chair without putting any question, unless on first going into supply on the army, navy, or civil service estimates respectively, or on any vote of credit, an amendment be moved, or question raised, relating to the estimates proposed to be taken in supply.

He therefore quits the chair without question put, when notice is given that estimates for supplementary, or excess grants, or grants on account, will be taken;1 and the only occasion when, pursuant to standing order No. 17, the Speaker proposes the question for his leaving the chair for the committee of supply, is limited to the sittings when the annual estimates for the ensuing financial year, Estimates, or for a vote of credit, are first set down for consideration; 2 see p. 546. and in the debate on amendments that may follow thereon, Vote of relevancy to the class of estimates of which notice has been given is strictly enforced. For instance, such matters as the desirability of an appeal in criminal cases, or the conduct of the Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland, were held to be subjects which could not be debated on the civil service estimates, because, in the first case, the amendment did not refer to

1 2nd and 12th March, 1883, 276 H. D. 3 s. 1261; 277 ib. 220; 5th March, 1884, 285 ib. 549; 13th Nov. 1884, 293 ib. 1598; 12th March, 1885, 295 ib. 893. In a new parliament the Speaker leaves the chair without putting any question for committee of supply on estimates supplementary to those voted in the last parliament, 88 Parl. Deb. 4 s. 213. The Speaker adopted the same

course when it was necessary to re-
open the committee of supply in
session 1902, 114 Parl. Deb. 4 s. 211.
2 The Speaker leaves the chair
forthwith on occasions when a sit-
ting of the committee held under
standing order No. 17 has been
interrupted, and a motion that the
house will immediately resolve itself
into supply has been agreed to, 2nd
Aug. 1884, 291 H. D. 3 s. 1531.

credit, see

p. 554.

Chapter any present action on the part of the government, and XXII. because, in the second, the lord-lieutenant's salary was not Part IV. granted by the committee of supply,1 and, for an analogous cause, the subject of the Greenwich Hospital funds was excluded from debate upon the navy estimates.2

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The ordinary rules of debate are applicable on this Debate on going into occasion. For instance, a matter already decided by the committee. house, of which notice has been given, or which stands upon the notice paper cannot be discussed. Matters which should be considered upon a substantive motion (see p. 278), are equally inadmissible. Nor can any subject, or matter of detail, which should be discussed in the committee, be debated on these occasions. Accordingly, neither debate nor amendment can be permitted relating to grants already agreed to, or to resolutions which will be proposed in the committee of supply, or to items upon the estimates. Under established usage, members who desire to bring Order in forward amendments of which they have given notice," amendmoving do not wait for the Speaker's call, but rise to do so when ments. the opportunity occurs. Accordingly, when several notices.

1 30th March, 1885, 296 H. D. 3 s. 1010; 9th Sept. 1886, 308 ib. 1756, 1774-1779. 1785-1789.

2 17th March, 1890, 342 ib. 1027. 3142 ib. 1026; 189 ib. 91; 207 ib. 500; 308 ib. 1755.

2nd June, 1856 (Mr. Blackburn), not reported. On the 25th July, 1861, Mr. Hope rose to move as an amendment to the question for the Speaker's leaving the chair, an address, praying that a sum already voted for the Royal Military College at Sandhurst should not be expended until the house had had time to consider the plan of certain proposed buildings; but the Speaker ruled that such an amendment was out of order, as the vote to which it referred had already been agreed to by the house, and could not be reopened in that form, 164 ib. 1500; see also 24th Feb. 1862, 165 ib. 639; Dockyard Commission, 22nd Feb. 1864, 173 ib. 903; Greenwich Hos

pital, 5th Aug. 1867, 189 ib. 857;
Number of Land Forces, 4th March,
1872, 209 ib. 1327.

• The precedence of such notices
upon the paper is determined by a
ballot held on the next sitting day
after the committee of supply has
been set up in the same manner as
the ballot for notices of motions (see
p. 240). As the minister in charge
of the estimates can make his state-
ment with regard to them either
on the motion for the Speaker's
leaving the chair, or in committee
of supply on the first vote sub-
mitted to the committee (see
p. 620) the Speaker, when a
minister desired to adopt the former
course, has declined to accept a
motion to give the member who had
the first amendment on the paper
precedence over him, 124 Parl. Deb.
4 s. 433.

6174 H. D. 3 s. 1960.

Effect of

s. o. 17 on an adjourned amendment.

XXII.

have been given of amendments on going into the com- Chapter
mittee of supply, though the Speaker endeavours to follow
the order taken by the notices of amendments upon the Part IV.
notice paper, that order cannot be observed, unless the
members themselves rise in due course, and claim their
opportunity. As notice is required of these amendments,1
they can only be moved by the member who gave the
notice 2 (see p. 299). In this, and in other respects order in
debate on going into committee of supply conforms to
ordinary practice; thus when an amendment to the question
for the Speaker's leaving the chair has been negatived, as
it has been decided that the words proposed to be left out
shall stand part of the question, no further amendment
can be moved thereto; though, general debate on the
main question can be maintained by those members who
have not moved or seconded an amendment thereto, or
spoken on the main question before an amendment was
moved; and if an amendment be withdrawn, members,
who have spoken to the amendment, may speak again
after another amendment has been proposed. After an
amendment has been proposed, the debate is confined to
the question raised by it until the amendment has been
disposed of.8

The adjournment of debate on an amendment to the
question for the Speaker's leaving the chair creates, occa-
sionally, an exceptional result, owing to the direction con-
tained in standing order No. 17, that except on first going
into committee of supply on the annual estimates or on a
vote of credit, the Speaker shall leave the chair without
putting any question. If an adjourned debate on that
question is standing upon the notice paper when supply,
for the consideration of which in committee it is not
necessary to propose the question for the Speaker's leaving
the chair, is to be taken, the order of the day for resuming
the adjourned debate is removed, and procedure on the
amendment lapses, in order that the Speaker, in obedience
54 Parl, Deb. 4 s. 1290; 142 ib.
462.

1 191 H. D. 3 s. 2053; 814 ib. 1718.
29 Parl. Deb. 4 s. 1663.

Chapter to the standing order, may leave the chair without question

XXII.

Part IV.

Revival of orders of the day, see p. 263.

put.1

Revival of the order for the committee of supply.—The committee of supply must be kept on foot throughout the session, until closed in due course (see p. 623). Accordingly, when the house, by the acceptance of an amendment to the question for the Speaker's leaving the chair, has thereby superseded the order of the day for the committee of supply, that order is revived by a motion, made forthwith, either that the house will immediately, or upon a future day,3 resolve itself into the committee of supply. This course has also been followed on those occasions when, the motion for the Speaker's leaving the chair having been negatived, the house could not agree in the amendment that should follow thereon. For instance, four successive amendments having been tendered in vain for the acceptance of the house, an addition to the initial word "That" was accepted, whereby the sitting of the committee of supply was postponed to a see p. 292. future day; and, on another occasion, by words so added, the house immediately resolved itself into committee of supply. Except on occasions when, under standing order Committee No. 17, the Speaker leaves the chair forthwith, the resolution forthwith.

Question reduced to "That,"

5

1 27th and 30th May, 1892, 147 C. J. 297. 300. See also supply procedure ("Votes " and notice paper), 9th, 10th, and 11th March, 1893. The order for the adjourned debate was removed on Friday, 10th March, and when the question was reproposed (11th March) for the Speaker's leaving the chair for the committee of supply (Army Estimates), it was held (private ruling) that, as on the 9th March the house decided against an amendment to that question, no amendment could be proposed thereto on the 11th March, but general debate was maintained on the question.

2 Flogging in the Army, 15th March, 1867, 122 C. J. 106; Duchy of Lancaster, 5th May, 1871, 206 H. D. 3 s. 323; Slave Trade (Egypt and Turkey), 16th March, 1877, 132 C. J.

104; Turkey and Greece, 6th May,
1881, 136 ib. 219; also 136 ib. 288;
138 ib. 63.

• 14th March, 1879. Ordnance
Corps, 134 ib. 94; 4th April, 1879,
East India Cotton Goods, ib. 186;
2nd May, 1879, Irish Land Act,
1870, ib. 177; 138 ib. 168; 143 ib.
200; 145 ib. 284.

to sit again

The motion that the house will, Formal on Monday next, resolve itself into motions the committee of supply was made, after inter27th May, 1892, immediately after ruption, see an adjourned debate on an amend. P. 215. ment to the question for the Speaker's leaving the chair for supply had been adjourned by the midnight interruption of business 147 ib. 297.

5 120 ib. 379; 180 H. D. 3 s. 369-427.

6 126 C. J. 416.