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Admiral TRIMBLE. We cut 149 support positions during the past year. This budget includes only 3 additional ones. So our use of overtime hours with respect to personnel is in lieu of people that we don't have. So it is an offset, you might say, for people who have to do the work.

Mr. McFALL. Are you spending more in overtime than you would if you had additional people?

Admiral TRIMBLE. I think we have an efficient operation and I don't think we would be. We do have a problem, of course, as personnel ceilings are concerned. It is a combination problem.

Mr. McFALL. Are your personnel ceilings now less stringent than they were in the previous fiscal year?

Admiral TRIMBLE. There is no indication that they will be as yet, Mr. McFall. Congress has taken action which rescinds the stringent requirement of the past year. However, I think the administration promised that they would come up with an alternate plan that would be as strict as the one that was attached to the resolution of last year. Mr. McFALL. If you are going to have to pay overtime instead of hiring one extra man, do you have any data which shows the efficiency of this type of operation, that is, as to whether it is economical or

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Admiral TRIMBLE. Let us take our data processing, for example. Our people are working 7 days a week and 3 shifts. These are programers. Now, this problem has already been mentioned. This is the programers and the analysts. There is one way here that we are able to meet or keep up with our workload by working them overtime, and they are willing to do this, of course, and they get paid for it. So it is a combination of the availability of people as well as here where you might work somebody half a day overtime instead of hiring an extra person. I think there is a place for both the additional people and overtime. We think our program is well administered. We are not wasting money on overtime unnecessarily, as a result.

Mr. McFALL. How much are you currently spending per year on overtime?

Commander FITZGERALD. $386,000 a year in operating expenses. That is what we spent last year.

Mr. McFALL. That finishes the questions on operating expenses. Are there any other questions at this time?

Mr. MINSHALL. Not at this time, Mr. Chairman; thank you.

ACQUISITIONS, CONSTRUCTION, AND IMPROVEMENTS

Mr. McFALL. Insert pages ACI-2 to ACI-14 of the justification material in the record at this point.

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