In addition, it has been asked to review with us some of the fundamental issues and policies underlying the legislation which it administers and to indicate any recommendations it has for legislative change.

In the limited time which we have for this overall examination of each agency, I trust that we may keep the presentation and the questioning on general consideration of major matters rather than engage in pinpointing some specific items or delving into the intricacies of an individual case.

Chairman Tucker, you may now proceed with your presentation by introducing the members of the Commission and staff, and offering your statement in the manner which you have prepared it.

STATEMENTS OF HON. WILLIAM H. TUCKER, CHAIRMAN; PAUL J. TIERNEY, VICE CHAIRMAN; KENNETH H. TUGGLE, COMMISSIONER; RUPERT L. MURPHY, COMMISSIONER; LAURENCE K. WALRATH, COMMISSIONER; ABE MCGREGOR GOFF, COMMISSIONER; CHARLES A. WEBB, COMMISSIONER; JOHN W. BUSH, COMMISSIONER; VIRGINIA MAE BROWN, COMMISSIONER; WILLARD DEASON, COMMISSIONER; BERTRAM STILLWELL, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF PROCEEDINGS; GEORGE A. MEYER, DIRECTOR, BUREAU OF OPERATIONS AND COMPLIANCE; AND ROBERT D. PFAHLER, DIRECTOR, BUREAU OF RAILROAD SAFETY AND SERVICE, INTERSTATE COMMERCE COMMISSION

Mr. TUCKER. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. The Commission is very pleased to be here this morning and have the opportunity to participate in this dialog with its parent committee in the House. I would first like to introduce members of the Commission. I trust you can also note the name plates here.

On my right is the Vice Chairman, Commissioner Tierney, of Maryland, who has been with the Commission 4 years. To my left is Commissioner Tuggle, of Kentucky, Chairman of Division 3, who has been with the Commission 1312 years. We then have Commissioner Murphy, of Georgia, who has been with the Commission 11 years, Commissioner Walrath, of Florida, 11 years, Commissioner Abe McGregor Goff, of Idaho, 9 years, Commissioner Webb, of Virginia, 812 years, Commissioner Bush, of Ohio, who has been with us 6 yearsI might say sworn in on the same date that I was, Mr. ChairmanCommissioner Virginia Mae Brown, of West Virginia, 3 years, and Commissioner Willard Deason, of Texas, 111⁄2 years.

I would also like to introduce, Mr. Chairman, the principal heads of our bureaus and offices in the Commission. I wonder if you gentlemen would stand as I mention your name so that the committee could see who you are.

Our managing director, Mr. Bernard Schmid, who has been with us 11 years; our secretary, Mr. Garson, who has been with the Commission 17 years. The General Counsel is necessarily absent and I would like to introduce our Associate General Counsel, Ike Hay, who has been with the Commission 30 years; Mr. Stillwell, Director of the Office of

Proceedings, who has been with the Commission 41 years; Mr. Silverman, Proceedings Deputy Director, 30 years; Mr. Forbes, Proceedings Deputy Director, 30 years; Mr. Corbin, Proceedings Deputy Director, 27 years.

Director Paolo, Bureau of Accounts, 28 years; Director Margolin, Bureau of Economics, 8 years; Director Gould, Bureau of Enforcement, 30 years; Director Meyer, Bureau of Operations and Compliance, 30 years; Director Pfahler, Bureau of Railroad Safety and Service, 20 years; Director Cox, Bureau of Traffic, who a week ago celebrated his 40th year with the Commission; and Mr. Corcoran, our congressional liaison officer, who has been with the Commission 2

years.

I have available for the record, Mr. Chairman, biographies of the members of the Commission and the Directors which I have named which I will submit, if the Chair please.

The CHAIRMAN. Thank you.

(The information referred to follows:)

BIOGRAPHY OF WILLIAM HUMPHREY TUCKER, CHAIRMAN

Appointed to ICC by President John F. Kennedy on March 24, 1961, took oath of office April 3, 1961, for a term expiring December 31, 1967.

Born in Boston, Massachusetts, on September 8, 1923, son of William Humphrey Tucker and Marion (Thomas) Tucker; married to former Caroline E. Aitken of Boston; two daughters, Karen, 17; Sandra, 13.

Attended Boston Public Schools, Boston University's College of Liberal Arts and School of Law; Editor of BU Law Review; received LLB cum laude, Boston University 1949.

U.S. Army 1942-45 as parachutist with 505th Parachute Regiment of 82nd Airborne Division; overseas 1942-45 in 82nd Airborne's campaigns in Sicily, Italy, Normandy, Holland, Ardennes and Central Europe.

Practiced law in 1949-1961 in Athol and Boston, Massachusetts; specializing in transportation and labor law; admitted to practice before State and Federal Courts, U.S. Supreme Court and ICC.

Vice Chairman of ICC in 1966; served on all three divisions of the Commission; Chairman of the 1965 ICC Policy and Planning Committee.

Organizations and Memberships: Judge Advocate, 82nd Airborne Division Association (National President 1953); President, 82nd Airborne C-47 Club, Inc.; Association of U.S. Army; Athol Post 102 American Legion (Past Commander); Massachusetts and Federal Bar Associations; National Pilots Association and Parachute Club of America; Commissioner, Massachusetts Parachuting Commission, 1960; National Alumni Council of Boston University; Chairman, Friends of Boston University Football; Washington Athletic Club (Board of Governors 1963); Congressional Country Club; Stone Horse Yacht Club (Harwichport, Massachusetts).

Resides at 5109 Brookeway Drive, Washington, D.C. 20016, and Neel Road, Harwichport, Massachusetts.

BIOGRAPHY OF PAUL J. TIERNEY, COMMISSIONER

Commissioner Paul J. Tierney was born June 3, 1916 in Northumberland, Pennsylvania. He attended public elementary and high school in Northumberland, Pennsylvania; received a B.S. Degree from Georgetown College and an LL.B. Degree from Georgetown University Law School, Washington, D.C. He is a member of the District of Columbia Bar.

From 1939 to 1953 Mr. Tierney was employed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He served as a special agent on various domestic and foreign assignments from 1941 until 1953, when he became a member of the professional staff of the Senate Appropriations Committee. From 1955 to 1963 he served as as

sistant counsel to the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations and the Senate Select Committee on Improper Activities in the Labor or Management Field.

Mr. Tierney, a Republican, was appointed to the Interstate Commerce Commission by President Kennedy. He took his oath of office on March 29, 1963 for a 7-year term to expire December 31, 1969. He has served on each of the Commission's three Divisions, the Policy and Planning Committee, and the Rules Committee. He was elected by the Commission to be Vice Chairman for the 1967 calendar year.

Mr. Tierney is married to the former Elizabeth Ann McNamara of Washington, D.C. They have one daughter and four sons.

BIOGRAPHY OF KENNETH H. TUGGLE, COMMISSIONER

Kenneth Herndon Tuggle was born at Barbourville, Kentucky, June 12, 1904, the son of Judge Jesse D. and Sue Gregory (Root) Tuggle. He received his college and law education at the University of Kentucky.

Admitted to the Kentucky Bar in 1926, he maintained a private law practice from then until his ICC appointment in 1953. In 1934 he organized the Union National Bank at Barbourville and was Chairman of its Board until 1953.

From 1943 to 1947 Mr. Tuggle was Lieutenant Governor of Kentucky, serving as Chairman of the Kentucky Legislative Council in 1943 and 1945, and as President of the State Senate in 1944 and 1946.

Mr. Tuggle was a member of the Kentucky Committee on Interstate Cooperation from 1944 to 1948; member of the Board of Managers of the Council of State Governments from 1944 to 1947; Chairman of the Kentucky Disabled ExService Men's Board from 1943 to 1947; member of the Kentucky Committee on Resources and Functions of State Government from 1950 to 1952; and a member of the executive committee of the Kentucky Bookmobile Project from 1952–56. He is a trustee of Union College, a trustee of the American Museum of Safety; and is a member of the American, Federal, Kentucky and Knox County Bar Associations, the American Society of Traffic and Transportation, the American Judicature Society, the Federal Safety Council and the National Defense Transportation Association. He was Chairman of the Delegation representing the United States Government at the Sixth Session of the Inland Transport Committee, I.L.O., Hamburg, Germany, in 1957.

He was Chairman of the Commission in 1959. He has served as a member and chairman of the motor carrier division, and currently is chairman of Division 3, the Finance, Safety and Service Division. The Commissioner was in administrative charge of the National Defense Executive Reserve Unit of the ICC during 1957-58, and also in administrative charge of its Transport Mobilization Staff until it was inactivated.

Commissioner Tuggle is married to the former Vivian Shifley and has two children-Kenneth Jesse and Sarah Baldwin Tuggle. He is a Methodist and maintains his home at 5200 Western Avenue, Chevy Chase, Md.

BIOGRAPHY OF RUPERT L. MURPHY, COMMISSIONER

Rupert L. Murphy, a Democrat, was first appointed to the Interstate Commerce Commission December 30, 1955, for a term expiring December 31, 1957; reappointed for a full seven-year term to the Interstate Commerce Commission on January 30, 1958 for a term expiring December 31, 1964; and is currently serving under a term which will expire December 31, 1972.

Born at Byromville, Georgia, July 27, 1909, the son of Luther H. and Ardelia (Woodruff) Murphy, he received his elementary and high school education there. The Commissioner received his LLB and LLM degrees from Atlanta Law School. He is admitted to the Georgia Bar and the bars of the District Court of the United States for the 5th Judicial Circuit, Northern District of Georgia, and the United States Supreme Court.

The Commissioner was associated with the Southern Freight Tariff Bureau from 1926 to 1929. From 1929 to 1942, he represented the Fulton Bag and Cotton Mills in Atlanta. Since that time, Mr. Murphy practiced law and represented

the Georgia-Alabama Textile Traffic Association at Atlanta, the American Cotton Manufacturers Institute, the Cotton Manufacturers Association of Georgia, the Alabama Cotton Manufacturers Association, the Tufted Textile Manufacturers Association, and the National Textile Waste Exchange.

He is past President and Chairman of the Board of Governors, Southern Traffic League, and General Chairman of the Southeast Shippers Advisory Board, and was Vice President of the National Industrial Traffic League.

The Commissioner's varied assignments during his service on the Commission have made it possible for him to acquire experience in all facets of its operation. He served for a number of years as a member of former Divisions 2 and 3, which were concerned principally with rate, tariff, valuation, safety and service matters. On January 1, 1958, he became Chairman of Division 1, the operating authority division, and continued to serve in that capacity until March 1, 1961, when he was elected to the newly created post of Vice Chairman. As Vice Chairman, he was responsible to the Commission for the operations of its regulatory bureaus.

On January 1, 1962, Commissioner Murphy was elected Chairman of the Commission for the year 1962. Following his Chairmanship, Commissioner Murphy served as a member of Division 3, the finance division, until he became Chairman of Division 1, operating rights, on April 1, 1965.

He is a member of the American Bar Association, the Georgia Bar Association, the Federal Bar Association, the Association of Interstate Commerce Commission Practitioners, American Society of Traffic and Transportation, and is a member of Delta Theta Phi, legal fraternity, and Delta Nu Alpha, transportation fraternity.

He is married to the former Marion Kerlin of Fayetteville, Georgia, and has one son, Rupert L, (Pete) Murphy, II. The family resides at River House Apartment B-114, 1400 South Joyce Street, Arlington, Virginia.

BIOGRAPHY OF LAURENCE K. WALRATH, COMMISSIONER

Laurence K. Walrath took the oath of office as an Interstate Commerce Commissioner on March 29, 1956, to succeed the late Commissioner Kelso Elliott for a term expiring December 31, 1956. He was reappointed for a term expiring December 31, 1963, and took the oath of office on February 21, 1957. He served as Vice Chairman for 1962 and was elected Chairman for 1963. In March 1964, he was again renominated by President Johnson for a term expiring December 31, 1970.

Commissioner Walrath was born in Meadville, Pa., August 16, 1909. He attended Emory University Acadmy, Oxford, Ga., and graduated from the University of Florida with the degrees of A.B. in 1931 and J.D. and LL.B. in 1934.

He was admitted to the Florida bar in 1934, and has been admitted to practice before the United States Supreme Court, the ICC, and numerous other Government agencies and courts. From 1934 until his appointment to the Commission, he was the senior active partner of Knight, Walrath, Kincaid and Young, a law firm in Jacksonville.

During World War II he entered the service in 1942 as a Lieutenant (j.g.) in the Navy, served in the Mediterranean area, and was released from active duty as a Lieutenant Commander in 1945.

Commissioner Walrath was a member and past president of the Jacksonville Bar Association, a lecturer for the Florida Bar Association, and a member of the American Bar Association and of the ICC Practitioners Association.

He has been active in many civic organizations including Boy Scouts of America, The American Red Cross and the Chamber of Commerce. He is a member of the University of Florida Alumni Association, Phi Delta Phi, Phi Kappa Phi, Pi Kappa Phi, and the American Legion, and is a 32nd Degree Mason.

He is married to the former Mildred Hoff. There are four children, Jean Camille (Mrs. E. K. Goethe), Laurence Kaye, Jr., Timothy Glass, and Shelby Ann (Mrs. Joseph F. Shad, Jr.). The Commissioner and Mrs. Walrath have nine grandchildren.

He resides at 5270 Loughboro Road, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20016, but maintains his legal residence at Ponte Vedra Beach, St. Johns County, Florida. Commissioner Walrath is a Democrat and is the first member of the Commission appointed from the State of Florida.

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BIOGRAPHY OF ABE MCGREGOR GOFF, COMMISSIONER

Home: Moscow, Idaho. Army Private in W.W. I. Law, University of Idaho. H.S. football team on the side. and President of the Idaho State Bar. Saw duty as a Major through Colonel in W.W. II, serving in the War Department, in Africa, Europe, the Pacific and on General MacArthur's staff in the occupation of Japan. Also was Deputy Director, U.S. War Crimes Office and closed wartime duty in the Office of the Under Secretary of War. Awarded the Legion of Merit, Commendation Medal and eight other service or campaign medals.

Born at Colfax, Washington, December 21, 1899.
Played varsity football and a graduate, College of
Began practice of Law in Idaho in 1924, coaching
Later, was Prosecuting Attorney, a State Senator,

Following W.W. II was elected to Congress and after one term as Representative of the 1st District of Idaho (1947-48), returned to law practice. In 1954 came back to Washington again as the Solicitor (title later changed to General Counsel) U.S. Post Office Department. Resigned in 1958 to accept appointment on the Interstate Commerce Commission. Chairman, 1964.

Private law practice for 23 years before state and federal courts. Admitted to U.S. Supreme Court, U.S. Court of Military Appeals and Supreme Court of the Philippines. A former Member of House of Delegates, American Bar Association. Service also as a national officer of the Federal Bar Association, Federal Bar Foundation, Judge Advocates Association and American Society of International Law. Is a member of Inter-American Bar Association. Episcopalian, Beta Theta Pi, Military Order of the Carabao, and Colonel, Army of the U.S., Ret. Republican. Married in 1927 to Florence L. Richardson, then a faculty member, University of Idaho. Two married children.

BIOGRAPHY OF CHARLES A. WEBB, COMMISSIONER

Charles A. Webb was appointed to the Interstate Commerce Commission in 1958 by President Eisenhower and reappointed by President Johnson for another seven-year term expiring December 31, 1972. He was selected by the Commission to serve as Chairman for the year 1965.

Mr. Webb was born in Eagle Rock, Virginia, on March 26, 1917. He attended public schools in Iowa and graduated from the State University of Iowa. He received his LL.B. degree from the University of Virginia Law School in 1941. While at Virginia he was Notes Editor of the Virginia Law Review, a member of Phi Delta Phi legal fraternity, Order of Coif, and the Raven Society.

Prior to entering military service in November 1942, Mr. Webb was engaged in the private practice of law in Washington, D.C. He served during World War II as an officer on the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Monterey, being honorably discharged in December 1945. After resuming law practice in Washington, Mr. Webb, in 1948, accepted employment with the United States Senate. From September 1949 until his appointment to the Commission, he served as Legislative Assistant to Senator John W. Bricker of Ohio.

Commissioner Webb is a Republican. He is the second member of the Interstate Commerce Commission from the State of Virginia since the Commission was created in 1887.

He is married to the former Elinor June Anderson of Ottumwa, Iowa. They have four children and one grandchild. The family resides at Great Falls, Virginia.

BIOGRAPHY OF JOHN W. BUSH, COMMISSIONER

John W. Bush was appointed to the Interstate Commerce Commission to fill the vacancy created by the resignation of Commissioner Anthony F. Arpaia. He took the oath of office on April 3, 1961, for a term expiring December 31, 1964. He was reappointed for a term expiring December 31, 1971, and took the oath of office on April 14, 1965. He is the second Ohioan ever appointed to the Commission.

Commissioner Bush was born in Columbus, Ohio, on September 17, 1909. He attended public schools of Portsmouth, Ohio, and was graduated from Ports