Mr. SANCHEZ. Well, if we were short, maybe I did. I thought I had contacted these people before the election; pretty sure. Mr. WARE. Who is George J. Herman? Do you know him? Mr. WARE. Who is he? Mr. SANCHEZ. He is a gentleman who lives on West Cole Avenue. Mr. WARE. Yes, that morning. Didn't you go out and get him and bring him in that morning? Mr. SANCHEZ. I don't-I could have done it. Sure, I could have done it. If they were short, we had to get somebody. Mr. WARE. How about Mrs. M. W. Evans? Mr. SANCHEZ. No, I don't think I did. I think I had already talked to her long before that. Mr. WARE. How about Mr. Leyba? Mr. SANCHEZ. No. Mr. WARE. Who were the other two officials that you brought in? Mr. SANCHEZ. I don't know whether I brought in any that day. Mr. WARE. Had you made arrangements for them to be there in advance of the election? Mr. SANCHEZ. I thought that I had. Maybe some of them didn't show up. I thought that I had them contacted. Mr. WARE. Do you know anything about somebody marking ballots illegally in precinct 27A? Mr. SANCHEZ. No, sir. Mr. WARE. You do not? Mr. SANCHEZ. No, sir. Mr. WARE. You never heard of it before? Mr. SANCHEZ. No, sir. I never heard of it. Mr. WARE. Do you know Mr. Lovato? Mr. SANCHEZ. Yes. Mr. WARE. And he is a fellow worker of yours? Mr. SANCHEZ. No. Mr. WARE. He is not? Mr. SANCHEZ. No. Mr. WARE. Did he have any cars that he was paying for? Mr. SANCHEZ. I heard he was. Mr. WARE. And you and he are both Democrats? Mr. SANCHEZ. That is right. Mr. WARE. But you didn't work together? Mr. SANCHEZ. No, sir. Mr. WARE. But he was working in your precinct? Mr. SANCHEZ. Yes. Mr. WARE. Isn't it strange that the party chairman and another man were both working the same precinct and yet didn't work together? Mr. SANCHEZ. I will tell you why. Because I was the chairman and they were supposed to turn over to me the money. Mr. WARE. In other words, you didn't get all the money? Mr. SANCHEZ. No, I didn't get very little. The other fellow did. Mr. WARE. What trouble came up in precinct 27C? I am not talking about A now, but 27C. Mr. SANCHEZ. Yes. We had a little trouble. Mr. WARE. What was it? Mr. SANCHEZ. There was a man, the chairman, the Republican chairman had his son and his daughter working in the booth when he was at his office. Mr. WARE. And what happened? Did you go over there? Mr. SANCHEZ. Well, I was there. I didn't know him from Adam, but one of the voters told me that this fellow's daughter was working. Whether she was a judge or whether she was a clerk or what, she was working at the table there, and this voter contacted me and said, "How come this girl is working over there. I am running for JP myself and they wouldn't let my uncle serve because he was related to me." And I said, "Well, I don't know." He said, "How come this girl serve?" I said, "I don't know." I called headquarters and sent a man over there and we talked to the judges and the judges, they didn't know, but when they found out they let her go and this man got another in her place. Mr. WARE. No further questions. Senator BARRETT. That is all, Mr. Sanchez. Thank you kindly. (Thereupon, the witness was excused.) TESTIMONY OF SOLOMON PADILLA (First duly sworn upon oath.) Mr. WARE. Will you state your name, sir? Mr. PADILLA. Solomon Padilla. Mr. WARE. Where do you reside, Mr. Padilla ? Mr. PADILLA. 315 Cromwell SW. Mr. WARE. During the November 4, 1952, election, did you have any official capacity? Were you an official of that election? Mr. PADILLA. Well, I am the chairman. Mr. WARE. What chairman, sir? Mr. PADILLA. Republican chairman. Mr. WARE. Where are you Republican chairman? Mr. PADILLA. Precinct 27. Mr. WARE. How long have you served in that capacity? Mr. PADILLA. I have been there for the last 4 years. Mr. WARE. Were you paid any money by anyone to use as expenses during election day? Mr. PADILLA. No, sir. Mr. WARE. You were not for the hire of cars? Mr. PADILLA. I was sent about 3 or 4 cars. Mr. WARE. How much did you receive. Mr. PADILLA. Well, I only gave them about $15 each car. Mr. WARE. How much money did you receive? Mr. PADILLA. I think it was $75, I think. Mr. WARE. $75? Mr. PADILLA. Yes. Mr. WARE. Now did you pay any money to any-any other expenses that day! Mr. PADILLA. No. Mr. WARE. No other expenses? Mr. PADILLA. No. Mr. WARE. Did you pay any money to any of these people? Mr. Giannini? Do you know him? Mr. PADILLA. Yes, I do. Mr. WARE. Did you pay him any money, Angelo J. Giannini? Mr. WARE. Did you pay any money to Mr. Pete Alarid? Mr. WARE. Do you know him? Mr. PADILLA. Yes, I do. Mr. WARE. How about Mrs. Pete Alarid? Mr. WARE. Mrs. M. W. Evans, did you pay her any money? Mr. PADILLA. No. Mr. WARE. Demetrio Leyba? Mr. PADILLA. No. Mr. WARE. Mary S. Erlewine? Mr. PADILLA. No, I didn't. Mr. WARE. Now were you in contact with Mr. Pablo Garcia-in contact with him during election day? Mr. PADILLA. I tried to get in contact with him, but every time I I went by he wasn't home. Mr. WARE. You didn't see him all day election day? Mr. PADILLA. No. Mr. WARE. Did he give you any money? Mr. PADILLA. No; he didn't. Mr. WARE. Who did give you your money? Mr. PADILLA. They give it to me over there at Phillip Hubbell's. Mr. Warner. Mr. WARE. Phillip Hubbell? Mr. PADILLA. No, Mr. Warner, the county chairman, the Republican county chairman. Mr. WARE. Is that before election day? Mr. PADILLA. It was in the evening; yes; just before, because I had to pay those guys for the cars, and I had to have the money to pay them. Mr. WARE. Did Mr. Pete-Pablo Garcia contact you at any time about Mr. Pete Alarid? Mr. PADILLA. No; he didn't. Mr. WARE. Did he contact you about giving any money? Mr. PADILLA. I went twice to see him and every time he was hiding away from us. He told me to hire cars and he was going to pay for them, and I would hire the cars for him, but he didn't show up, nor Brown either. I hired five cars. Mr. WARE. Five cars? Mr. PADILLA. Yes, sir. Mr. WARE. That is all. No further questions. (Thereupon, the witness was excused.) TESTIMONY OF GEORGE J. HERMAN (First duly sworn upon oath.) Mr. WARE. What is your name? Mr. HERMAN. George J. Herman. Mr. WARE. Mr. Herman, where do you live? Mr. HERMAN. 524 Cole Avenue SW. Mr. WARE. In the November 4, 1952, election did you vote in precinct 27A? Mr. HERMAN. Yes, there at the schoolhouse at Lead and Third. Mr. HERMAN. Yes, sir; you would call it that. Mr. WARE. Who brought you down? Mr. Sanchez, the precinct chairman, he came and got you in the morning? Mr. HERMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. WARE. You didn't know you were going to be an election official? Mr. HERMAN. No; he wanted me. Mr. WARE. Some officials didn't come and he wanted you to come? Mr. HERMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. WARE. How long have you known Mr. Sanchez? Mr. HERMAN. Almost-since we were in Albuquerque, 1945. Mr. WARE. What is your party? Mr. HERMAN. Democrat. Mr. WARE. The Democratic Party? Mr. HERMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. WARE. Did Mr. Sanchez give you any money for serving as an election official? Mr. WARE. What did you do during election day? Mr. HERMAN. I took the ballots and put them in the box. Folded them if they were not folded and put them in the box. Mr. WARE. Did you help count the ballots? Mr. HERMAN. No, sir; I didn't. Mr. WARE. Did you ever go back in the counting room? Mr. HERMAN. Yes, sir; after the polls were closed in the evening. Mr. WARE. During the day did you notice whether all the officials were in the front part of the polling place where you were? Was there any time that they were all there together? Mr. HERMAN. No; I don't think so. Mr. WARE. There were always people back there? Mr. HERMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. WARE. Where you were all day long? Mr. HERMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. WARE. You didn't leave the polling place? Mr. HERMAN. No, sir. Mr. WARE. And you stayed there and gave ballots out all day? Mr. WARE. You took them in and dropped them in the box? Mr. HERMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. WARE. Did you notice Mr. Giannini at any time during the day? Mr. HERMAN. I know him by sight when he was in. Mr. WARE. Were there any of the officials that were drinking during the day? Mr. HERMAN. No; not that I know of. Mr. WARE. Did you know all of the officials that were there? Mr. HERMAN. No, I didn't. Mr. WARE. Did the officials stay there all day during the polling? Mr. HERMAN. I didn't see any go out. Mr. WARE. Were you in a position to see them go out? Mr. HERMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. WARE. And no one left? Mr. HERMAN. No, sir. Mr. WARE. In the morning until they finished at night? Mr. WARE. At the time they closed the boxes and they asked you to sign the pollbooks, were all the officials there? Mr. HERMAN. I believe there was-there was a lot of us in that room, and I think they were all there so far as I know. Mr. WARE. That is all, sir. (Thereupon, the witness was excused.) TESTIMONY OF MRS. PAUL J. SALAZAR (First duly sworn upon oath.) Mr. WARE. Would you state your full name, please. Mrs. SALAZAR. I am Mrs. Paul J. Salazar. Mr. WARE. And you and your husband served as election officials? Mrs. SALAZAR. No; just myself. Mr. WARE. Where do you live? Mrs. SALAZAR. Right now at 1313 Lafayette NE. I didn't live there then. At 400 Third Street at that time. Mr. WARE. On November 4, 1952, you did live there? Mrs. SALAZAR. Yes. Mr. WARE. And now you do not? Mrs. SALAZAR. Yes, sir; that is right. Mr. WARE. At what time did you arrive at the polls on election day? Mrs. SALAZAR. At 8 o'clock. I just crossed the street. I lived right across the street. Mr. WARE. Who appointed you an election official? Mrs. SALAZAR. I got a letter through the mail from the county clerk's office. Mr. WARE. And did you stay in the polling place all day? Mrs. SALAZAR. No; I went across the street to the drugstore for some things. We ate our meals there. They brought them in for us. Mr. WARE. Did you know all the other officials? Mrs. SALAZAR. I met them that day. Mr. WARE. Before? Mrs. SALAZAR. No. Mr. WARE. During the course of the day what was your duty? Mr. WARE. In this book [indicating] and that is your handwriting and then you signed the pollbook on the back? Mrs. SALAZAR. Yes, sir. |