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DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND RELATED

AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1970

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-FIRST CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

SUBCOMMITTEE ON DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND RELATED

AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS

EDWARD P. BOLAND, Massachusetts, Chairman
JOHN J. MCFALL, California

WILLIAM E. MINSHALL, Ohio
SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois

SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts
RALPH PRESTON and THOMAS J. KINGFIELD, Staj Assistants to the Suboommittee

PART 1
Civil Aeronautics Board
Federal Highway Administration
Federal Railroad Administration
Interstate Commerce Commission
National Transportation Safety Board
United States Coast Guard
Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

GEORGE H. MAHON, Texas, Chairman MICHAEL J. KIRWAN, Ohio

FRANK T. BOW, Ohio JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi

CHARLES R. JONAS, North Carolina GEORGE W. ANDREWS, Alabama

ELFORD A. CEDERBERG, Michigan JOHN J. ROONEY, New York

GLENARD P. LIPSCOMB, California ROBERT L. F. SIKES, Forida

JOHN J. RHODES, Arizona OTTO E. PASSMAN, Louisiana

WILLIAM E. MINSHALL, Ohio JOE L. EVINS, Tennessee

ROBERT H. MICHEL, Illinois EDWARD P. BOLAND, Massachusetts SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts WILLIAM H. NATCHER, Kentucky

ODIN LANGEN, Minnesota DANIEL J. FLOOD, Pennsylvania

BEN REIFEL, South Dakota TOM STEED, Oklahoma

GLENN R. DAVIS, Wisconsin GEORGE E. SHIPLEY, Illinois

HOWARD W. ROBISON, New York JOHN M. SLACK, West Virginia

GARNER E. SHRIVER, Kansas JOHN J. FLYNT, JR., Georgia

JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania NEAL SMITH, Iowa

MARK ANDREWS, North Dakota ROBERT N. GIAIMO, Connecticut

LOUIS C. WYMAN, New Hampshire JULIA BUTLER HANSEN, Washington BURT L. TALCOTT, California JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York

CHARLOTTE T. REID, Illinois JOHN J. McFALL, California

DONALD W. RIEGLE, JR., Michigan W. R. HULL, JR., Missouri

WENDELL WYATT, Oregon
JEFFERY COHELAN, California

JACK EDWARDS, Alabama
EDWARD J. PATTEN, New Jersey
CLARENCE D. LONG, Maryland
JOHN O. MARSH, JR., Virginia
SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois
BOB CASEY, Texas
DAVID PRYOR, Arkansas
FRANK E. EVANS, Colorado

KENNETA SPRANKLE, Clerk and Staff Director
PAUL M. WILSON, A8818tant Clerk and Staff Director

SUBCOMMITTEE ON DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND RELATED AGENCIES

APPROPRIATIONS

EDWARD P. BOLAND, Massachusetts, Chairman JOHN J. McFALL, California

WILLIAM E. MINSHALL, Ohio SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois

SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts Ralph PRESTON and Thomas J. KINGFIELD, Staff Assistants to the Subcommittee

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DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND RELATED

AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1970

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 1969.

STATUS OF BUDGET PROPOSALS

WITNESSES

CHARLES D. BAKER, DEPUTY UNDER SECRETARY
B. G. PRESTEMON, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF BUDGET

Mr. BOLAND. The committee will come to order. We welcome the new addition to this committee, my colleague from Massachusetts, Mr. Conte, who is well known to the Coast Guard from his service on the Treasury and Post Office Subcommittee. As you know, in addition to this committee, he serves on two other subcommittees, Treasury and Post Office and Foreign Assistance, so he is a busy Member of the Congress

We regret that Mr. Jonas of North Carolina is not serving on the subcommittee this year. He gave valuable service as a member of the subcommittee.

We welcome the new Deputy Under Secretary of Transportation, Charles Baker, who is from our State. We want to tell you, Charles, that you have come into beautiful surroundings here, as you can see. It is a pleasant atmosphere and people who come here have ordinarily said it is one of the nicest subcommittees to appear before.

This morning we shall begin our hearings on the budget for the Department of Transportation. We had hoped it would have been possible for us to start these hearings earlier in the year. There were a number of reasons for not doing so. For one, the legislative programs of the other appropriation subcommittees have interfered. All these subcommittees have been working long hours and rather hard.

Then, we did not get the revision of the budget by the new admin-
istration until some time in April. Also, there has been a delay in the
submission and enactment of various required authorizations. All of
these things have precluded an earlier start.
We would like again to welcome the Deputy Under Secretary.
Secretary Baker, if you will supply us briefly with some of your
background, we shall be glad to have the record show it.

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OPENING REMARKS OF THE DEPUTY UNDER SECRETARY

Mr. Baker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First I would like to express my pleasure at being here before your committee on behalf of Secretary Volpe. I think that the importance of these hearings to the Secretary and to the Department can hardly be overstated. Certainly we want to make every effort to present in considerable detail the

programs the Department has, and to explain and justify them to your satisfaction.

The Secretary looks upon this committee as one of the most important the Department appears before, and I trust we can provide any information that is required.

As far as the other gentlemen with me here today, I doubt that introductions are necessary, since I believe in many cases you know them better than I do.

BACKGROUND OF MR. CHARLES D. BAKER

I can summarize my own background quickly. I spent 5 years in Naval Aviation.

I was graduated from Harvard College, where I took a degree in economics, and subsequently from the Harvard Business School, where I received a master's degree in business administration.

Following graduation, I joined the Westinghouse Corp. where I spent 5 years in purchasing and traffic. I left in 1961 to join a Massachusetts firm, United Research, which was headquartered in Cambridge at that time. It was a management consulting firm for which I served as vice president of management services and comptrollertreasurer.

In 1965 I left United Research and went into one of the largest management consulting firms, Harbridge House, which is headquartered in Boston and has offices around the country and in Europe. I was vice president of the firm and director of its transportation services group until I resigned in February of this year to accept my present appointment here in Washington as Deputy Under Secretary of the Department of Transportation. That roughly brings my background up to date.

I strayed from Massachusetts and married a girl from Minnesota. At present I live in Bethesda, Md.

(Biographical information follows:)

BIOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION ON CHA ES D. BAKER, DEPUTY UNDER SECRETARY

OF TRANSPORTATION

Born: Newburyport, Mass.; legal residence: Mass.; marital status: married; family: wife, nee Alice Elizabeth Ghormley; children: Charles D., Jonathan C., and Alexander K.; home address : 6110 Welborn Drive, Bethesda, Md.; education: Harvard College, A.B. economics, 1951 ; Harvard Graduate School of Business Administration, M.B.A., 1955; experience: 1965-February 7, 1969—Harbridge House, Inc. (international management consulting firm), vice president and director of transportation services; 1961-65—United Research, Inc. (U.S. management consulting firm), vice president and treasurer, manager of management services division; 1955–61—Westinghouse Electric Corp.-Electronic Tube Division-Elevator Division, purchasing section supervisor/purchase and traffic; military service: U.S. Navy 1946-48, 1951-53, enlisted-aviation flight crew, commissioned (lieutenant, junior grade, aviation electronics officer).

Mr. BAKER. We are indeed delighted to be here and hope we can provide any information your committee requires.

Mr. BOLAND. Thank you, Secretary Baker. I might say that from my knowledge of your background I am pleased to say I believe that Secretary Volpe has made an excellent choice in you as one of the top men in the Department. Since it is a department which has had difficulties getting off the ground, I am sure your expertise will be of considerable help.

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